One more for the Darwin awards.

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Re: One more for the Darwin awards.

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A-1 (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:15 am I would not make this generalization...

It is hard to believe that strolling in front of a train would be any suicidal persons choice of method of suicide.

On the contrary, I believe the manner or method of choice can be an interesting indicator of the the victim's thoughts prior to death.

Many years ago, I read that at least ninety percent of all teenage suicide attempts were teenage girls, yet eighty percent of all teenage suicides (not attempts) were teenage boys. The reason is that most of the time, not always, but most of the time, teenage girls attempt suicide, subconsciously or consciously not truly wanting to die, but instead doing it to get attention and sympathy. Girls and women tend most of the time to choose methods that are not immediate and can be turned back from (e.g. standing on a high building ledge, cutting their wrists) and also they often choose methods that do not disfigure their bodies and face (e.g. overdose on pills, turn on the oven gas without the pilot light and putting her head in the oven - as General Patton's niece did after the General died). These methods have the highest possibility of the "suicide" victim being discoverd (and rescued) by others while there is still a probabilty of recovery.

But there certainly does exist, that interesting minority of female suicides that involve sudden, irreversable, and certain methods (e.g. guns and trains).

I do not wish to sound insensitive or cold here, but when a female chooses one of these irreversable and suddent methods, it would be interesting to see what her thoughts were prior to suicide. Believe me, I do KNOW, I was close to one victim who ended her life with a borrowed pistol. While rare, this sort of female suicide does occur.

IF this poor girl's case is a suicide, as I strongly suspect, her choice of a train for her suicide method would indicate to me that she did not care about what her body would look like after she died. Not caring about her personal appearance is a clearly unusual state for any female. I would strongly suspect that she was going through one of the infinite emotional stages when a teenage girl "hates the way..." something or another about her body looks. She may have felt ostricized and unpopular because she was too fat/thin/tall/short.... etc. etc. and decided to end it all and end what she percieved to be displeasing looks.
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I also see teenagers (and their parents) do a lot of strange things while talking on the phone -or iphone. I've gotten to the point where I (call it road rage, I guess) scream out, "What are you doing? Are you on the phone or what?".
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DeaconBlues, you may be right on the money, but I don't think anybody will ever know for sure.

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Riverwind (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:04 pm DeaconBlues, you may be right on the money, but I don't think anybody will ever know for sure.

River

As Deacon pointed out, it is not merely the sound of the horn but also the vibration from the train itself that would be unavoidable at twenty feet away, time enough to jump off the tracks. A proper coroner's inquest should not only determine what drugs were in the patient's system, but should also investigate the patient's state of mind at the time from interviews with friends and diaries and the like. I think Deacon is probably right, but like Michael Jackson's case (where he was indeed drugged to the gills) we will have to wait for the coroner's verdict.
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Did you know if a train has an avrage of 100 cars going 60 miles an hour and it slams on the breaks, it can take over a mile to stop.

The train was not going 60 when this young girl was hit.

Walking on the rails you would feel the vibration of the train a mile away, walking on the ties much less.

If this girl was zoned out on her Ipod with it blasting in her ear I am not sure that she would have noticed the vibration of the ties in time to realize that she was in trouble.

If my shoulder is killing me as it sometimes does, I don't notice that my lower back is killing me as well, it just is a pain that I am not paying attention to.

So the test come back that she was clean, no drugs. Her friends and family say her state of mind was fantastic, that she was all for fun and very happy, everything says this. Then what?

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Riverwind (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:01 am So the test come back that she was clean, no drugs. Her friends and family say her state of mind was fantastic, that she was all for fun and very happy, everything says this. Then what?

River

In college, I had to "retrieve" a bit of college property from a family whose son died in a self-caused accident.

You don't go up to a grieving mother or father and say things like "your kid was a fool" or "Gee, he/she was so stupid" or stuff like that.

You just don't.
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Talking to the grieving family of course you don't, what do you take me for.

Here is the rest of your stupids kids stuff, we picked it up all over the tracks, you may want to wash some of the blood off before you use it.

Give me a break.

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