Something to think about

[A-1 (imported)]

Sure there is perpetual motion.

The Earth rotates on its axis, and around the Sun, the moon rotates around the Earth and so forth. All of this planetary motion is perpetual motion.

WE just have not been smart enough to overcome friction... yet.

So tell me, is not superconduction a form of perpetual motion? Just as long as the conductor stays cold enough it seems that it is...

[erikboy (imported)]

May be I'm misunderstanding, but it looks like КПД (efficiency coefficient) of more than 100% - so - impossible.

I'm not saying that getting "free" energy from environment wouldn't work - it just wouldn't work that way.

The idea is to use heatpump, which is pumping heat energy from surrounding environment. That is the source of energy. So in theory you get energy from cooling environment. Same principle as refrigerator only inverted.

No need to burn fuel to get heat energy. Use heatpump instead.

[Kangan (imported)]

There is no such thing as "perpetual motion." The heat pump + steam turbine idea is just another example of this sort of wishful thinking. It won't work. The energy has to come from somewhere. Try solar or wind power and forget using a bunch of complicated machinery.

[Kortpeel (imported)]

How interesting... the conservation laws of physics got changed?

Main question is - where the energy comes from? If it can output 24kW/s, it must be taking at least 24kW/s from somethere else - efficiency just can not be 100%, and energy does not come from nothere.

At least according to the physics I learned at school.

There was an enjoyable movie called "Back to the Future." In that there was a de Lorean sports car that had a small fission reactor and the energy came from any solid matter. In the movie they used old banana peel to power the car.

Of course fission power could be freely available today but Big Oil has kept a lid on it, same as they have done with engines that can run on water.

But apart from that. the de Lorean was a lovely car. I really liked it, even with a gasoline engine.

Kortpeel

[DeaconBlues (imported)]

But apart from that. the de Lorean was a lovely car. I really liked it, even with a gasoline engine.

Kortpeel

I usually think most "conspiracy theory" ideas are a bunch of B.S., but in DeLorean's case, there truly was an OBVIOUS "conspiracy" of sorts to entrap him in the drug deal. I don't have any proof that the DEA weenies who framed him were working at the behest of some other auto manufacturers, maybe they were just looking to bust any high profile person, but it sure seems odd that they busted the guy who was going to offer a very competetive and fun sports car on the U.S. and world market. Sort of like what happened to the "Tucker" automobile company.

The Tucker cars (only fifty of them were ever made) I have heard were really not that good, just offering a lot of very new things that no other vehicles had at the time (front wheel drive, safety glass, seat belts). But Tucker was put out of business early by the powers of the existing auto makers.

The DeLorean car was NOT the hottest and fastest when it was made, but it was pretty damn hot and fast and at a price the average person could afford. If DeLorean had not been entrapped in a cocaine buy, and had stayed in business... I think there really would have been a significant contribution to the automotive world, too bad.

[fhunter]

There was an enjoyable movie called "Back to the Future." In that there was a de Lorean sports car that had a small fission reactor and the energy came from any solid matter. In the movie they used old banana peel to power the car.

Of course fission power could be freely available today but Big Oil has kept a lid on it, same as they have done with engines that can run on water.

But apart from that. the de Lorean was a lovely car. I really liked it, even with a gasoline engine.

Kortpeel

Sometimes technology is not used/developed not because of some conspiracy, but cause it is too dangerous. Any powerful source of energy, which can give it out fast is dangerous. What will happen to fission source of energy in a car crash?

It is the same as with nuclear rocket engine - it was built and tested, but declared too dangerous.

[Bagoas (imported)]

Even the Earth's rotation on its axis is not perpetual motion. The Earth is transferring angular momentum to the Moon so that the Earth's rotation is slowing and the Moon's orbital velocity is increasing. The transfer is not perfect, however, some of the Earth's angular momentum is dissipated in tidal friction. Even if there were no oceans, there are atmospheric tides and even tides in the solid body of the Earth which dissipate energy. The Earth is slowing down just like a flywheel to which no more energy is being applied.

Every planet which has satellites is losing rotational energy energy in this fashion. The planets must also be slowing the rotation of the Sun by tidal friction. There is no perpetual motion, even in the Solar System or in any other planetary or stellar system.