Vote Republican or

[JesusA (imported)]

...Cut & Run Democrats will force your crippled grandmother to enter into a atheistic gay marriage with an illegal-alien, lesbian dog (ceremony jointly officiated by Nancy Pelosi and Osama bin Laden), then encourage WMD-bearing Iraqi terrorists to blow her up with a dirty bomb on their bestial honeymoon at an NFL game refereed by Hillary Clinton (preceded by a performance of communist anthems by the Dixie Chicks – naked except for a giant Old Glory that they will set on fire as they sing) AND (worst of all) - the Dems will then raise your taxes!

("I'm Karl Rove and I approve this message")

–––Martin Lewis

[Slammr (imported)]

...Cut & Run Democrats will force your crippled grandmother to enter into a atheistic gay marriage with an illegal-alien, lesbian dog (ceremony jointly officiated by Nancy Pelosi and Osama bin Laden), then encourage WMD-bearing Iraqi terrorists to blow her up with a dirty bomb on their bestial honeymoon at an NFL game refereed by Hillary Clinton (preceded by a performance of communist anthems by the Dixie Chicks – naked except for a giant Old Glory that they will set on fire as they sing) AND (worst of all) - the Dems will then raise your taxes!

("I'm Karl Rove and I approve this message")

–––Martin Lewis

If only I'd seen this post earlier, before I mailed off my ballot yesterday, I could have changed my vote, voting for Republicans instead. I didn't realize voting for Democrats posed these threats. Unfortunately, I voted a straight Democratic ticket. Too late now. I guess I'll have to live with it.

At least -- thank God -- my grandmother is dead. They can't force this humiliation on her.

[Kangan (imported)]

Thank goodness I'm a card carrying Republican....

ROFL I haven't laughed this hard in years....

[Studlover (imported)]

Thank goodness I'm a card carrying Republican....

ROFL I haven't laughed this hard in years....

Early voting starts in Texas Oct 23. Sure glad I saw this before I went to the polls. Republican for me now for sure! Especially if I can meet a Republican politician who can show me how to write dirty letters to cute teen boys and then blame it on the Catholic Priest!

The Devil Made Me Do It!

Studlover

[Slammr (imported)]

Early voting starts in Texas Oct 23. Sure glad I saw this before I went to the polls. Republican for me now for sure! Especially if I can meet a Republican politician who can show me how to write dirty letters to cute teen boys and then blame it on the Catholic Priest!

The Devil Made Me Do It!

Studlover

Stud: You have possibly just given the election to the Republicans. All they have to do now is pass a quick law making 16 year-olds legal and they will garner the pedophile vote.

[Studlover (imported)]

Stud: You have possibly just given the election to the Republicans. All they have to do now is pass a quick law making 16 year-olds legal and they will garner the pedophile vote.

Problem solved! Lowering the legal age to 16 then 16 years olds are legal and and adult couldn't be classified as a pedophile.

Now, as for as blaming it on a Catholic Priest that shouldn't be a problem. One's former Priest or just any Priest would be fine! Doesn't have to be a Catholic Priest. Any clergy member will do!

Because of the scandal of the Roman Catholic Priest in the last 3 years, America will buy into it, realizing that Priest turn hetrosexual male teenagers into homosexual teenagers, send the the Priests/Clergy to prison for life, and the Republicans remain in power.

Yep, the Devil made me do it!

Wasn't that easy?

Studlover

[kristoff]

Love the post. Copied it off, making multiple copies, and taking it to the DFL (Democratic-Farmer-Labor) party halloween fund raiser tonight.

[Slammr (imported)]

Problem solved! Lowering the legal age to 16 then 16 years olds are legal and and adult couldn't be classified as a pedophile.

Now, as for as blaming it on a Catholic Priest that shouldn't be a problem. One's former Priest or just any Priest would be fine! Doesn't have to be a Catholic Priest. Any clergy member will do!

Because of the scandal of the Roman Catholic Priest in the last 3 years, America will buy into it, realizing that Priest turn hetrosexual male teenagers into homosexual teenagers, send the the Priests/Clergy to prison for life, and the Republicans remain in power.

Yep, the Devil made me do it!

Wasn't that easy?

Studlover

When I was fourteen I was fondled by my Algebra teacher on several occasions. He liked fourteen year old boys and would take us to the movies and other places. He particularly liked one of my friends that had a ten inch dick. He did much more with him, than with me. Once, while camping, and they were skinny dipping, the teacher tackled him, inserting his dick between his legs, getting off by by holding the boy's legs against his dick. He never penetrated any of us or sucked any one's cock, as far as I know.

I wasn't traumatized by the experience. I don't believe it made any difference in my sexuality. I don't know that anyone even disliked the guy because of it. He was one of the most popular teachers in the school. Hell, having someone older pay some attention to me was worth letting him rub my cock some. My father never paid any attention to me.

My sexual preferences -- although I wasn't completely cognizant of them then -- were pretty well already set. Looking back, I think they were set long before puberty. The teacher didn't make me queer or make me want to have sex with boys. I was never turned on by him, and -- as far as I can remember -- never got an erection when he rubbed my dick, which was probably why he didn't do it to me that often. I suppose, if I'd been turned on by it, he would have taken me to more movies.

I'm not saying it's all right for adult men to play around with fourteen year-old boys. I'm just saying it's not as big a deal as Foley and others imply it is. We boys talked about it among ourselves. None of us were traumatized by the experience. "He's queer. He likes boys. So what," was the attitude. Of course, the world was different then. None of us -- I guaren-God Damn-tee you -- would have felt we had been abused had a good looking woman teacher had sex with us. Fuck -- we were fourteen years-old. We would have been in Heaven, had we been fucked by an older woman. The world has become a little crazy about sex since.

None of us -- as far as I know -- felt guilty or blamed ourselves because he wanted to play with our dicks. That was the way he was. That was him, not us. I'm not saying that some boys seduced by priests or others haven't been traumatized by such an experience, but I doubt Foley was. I imagine the priest picked Foley, recognizing that he would be receptive to the attention he paid him, just as the teacher picked the boys he did, boys hungry for attention.

One the Classmates board for my high school, there were many comments about this teacher, saying he was the best teacher they ever had, comments by both males and females. I was tempted to say, "Hey, you idiots, he was a pedophile," but what good would that do? He's probably dead by now, or old enough that he's no threat to anyone. I'm certainly not going to blame any of my shortcomings on him.

There are differences here between what I and my friends experienced and what others have experienced. I always felt I could have said, "No," and that would have ended it. I went to the movie -- the drive-in -- knowing I might get my dick rubbed. I could have turned down the invitation. Having him take me to the movie and having him talk to me was worth letting him rub my dick -- fair trade I thought at the time. Even looking back on it, I think it was a fair trade.

I could have avoided the teacher. That's a big difference. I was in control. I can understand that it would be different for someone that had no control over the situation. That's rape, altogether different.

From the description the priest gave, his encounter with Foley didn't sound like rape. It was an abuse of power -- abuse of authority -- but not rape. Sounds like Foley knew he was going to have his dick played with and wanted it to happen.

How's that for taking this thread off course? But, Studlover made me do it.

[Studlover (imported)]

When I was fourteen I was fondled by my Algebra teacher on several occasions. He liked fourteen year old boys and would take us to the movies and other places. He particularly liked one of my friends that had a ten inch dick. He did much more with him, than with me. Once, while camping, and they were skinny dipping, the teacher tackled him, inserting his dick between his legs, getting off by by holding the boy's legs against his dick. He never penetrated any of us or sucked any one's cock, as far as I know.

I wasn't traumatized by the experience. I don't believe it made any difference in my sexuality. I don't know that anyone even disliked the guy because of it. He was one of the most popular teachers in the school. Hell, having someone older pay some attention to me was worth letting him rub my cock some. My father never paid any attention to me.

My sexual preferences -- although I wasn't completely cognizant of them then -- were pretty well already set. Looking back, I think they were set long before puberty. The teacher didn't make me queer or make me want to have sex with boys. I was never turned on by him, and -- as far as I can remember -- never got an erection when he rubbed my dick, which was probably why he didn't do it to me that often. I suppose, if I'd been turned on by it, he would have taken me to more movies.

I'm not saying it's all right for adult men to play around with fourteen year-old boys. I'm just saying it's not as big a deal as Foley and others imply it is. We boys talked about it among ourselves. None of us were traumatized by the experience. "He's queer. He likes boys. So what," was the attitude. Of course, the world was different then. None of us -- I guaren-God Damn-tee you -- would have felt we had been abused had a good looking woman teacher had sex with us. Fuck -- we were fourteen years-old. We would have been in Heaven, had we been fucked by an older woman. The world has become a little crazy about sex since.

None of us -- as far as I know -- felt guilty or blamed ourselves because he wanted to play with our dicks. That was the way he was. That was him, not us. I'm not saying that some boys seduced by priests or others haven't been traumatized by such an experience, but I doubt Foley was. I imagine the priest picked Foley, recognizing that he would be receptive to the attention he paid him, just as the teacher picked the boys he did, boys hungry for attention.

One the Classmates board for my high school, there were many comments about this teacher, saying he was the best teacher they ever had, comments by both males and females. I was tempted to say, "Hey, you idiots, he was a pedophile," but what good would that do? He's probably dead by now, or old enough that he's no threat to anyone. I'm certainly not going to blame any of my shortcomings on him.

There are differences here between what I and my friends experienced and what others have experienced. I always felt I could have said, "No," and that would have ended it. I went to the movie -- the drive-in -- knowing I might get my dick rubbed. I could have turned down the invitation. Having him take me to the movie and having him talk to me was worth letting him rub my dick -- fair trade I thought at the time. Even looking back on it, I think it was a fair trade.

I could have avoided the teacher. That's a big difference. I was in control. I can understand that it would be different for someone that had no control over the situation. That's rape, altogether different.

From the description the priest gave, his encounter with Foley didn't sound like rape. It was an abuse of power -- abuse of authority -- but not rape. Sounds like Foley knew he was going to have his dick played with and wanted it to happen.

How's that for taking this thread off course? But, Studlover made me do it.

Slammr, right. *I* am the Devil. Come to think of it, that is a compliment!

Times have changed. When we were 14 there was a "code" that boys could fool around and that was part of development. Older men could approach boys and it seemed to enhance maturation. Today, it's "evil" and "sick" and will lead a young boy down the paths of debauchery, etc.

Although I had many sexual encounters with boys my own age, it was just part of "growing up." Today, it's sexual harassment, indecency with a child, etc. I am sorry for this. The Americans are so paranoid about sex that we are almost back to the 1600's.

In European Countries it's "no big deal." It's more ho-hum. The Foley case would have been on the back page (pun intended) of the newspaper.

Yeah, I know there is going to be a lot of flack over my statement. So f**cking what?

BTW, Slammr, don't you mean your sexual "orientation" rather than your sexual "preference?"

Studlover

(Studlover makes lots of dudes do stuff..hehehe...the Devil he is).

[Slammr (imported)]

Slammr, right. *I* am the Devil. Come to think of it, that is a compliment!

BTW, Slammr, don't you mean your sexual "orientation" rather than your sexual "preference?"

Studlover

(Studlover makes lots of dudes do stuff..hehehe...the Devil he is).

It may be nit picking, but I don't have a sexual "orientation." I have a sexual "preference" that changes -- has changed -- from time to time, more of a person preference than a gender preference. I have been in long-term exclusive relationships with both males and females, with more females than males.

Even in the first grade, I equally loved two of my classmates, a boy and a girl, John and Mary George, at that time, the two most popular kids in the class. I moved away from that town -- my home town -- when I was in the sixth grade, but saw both John and Mary George each once on subsequent visits (my grandparents lived in the town).

When I saw Mary George, she had become fat, which ruined it for me. I saw John last when I was about sixteen. He was still a good looking kid. I still have a thing for him -- for the boy he was then. Of course, he's an old man now -- if he's still alive -- but in my mind, he's still that sixteen year-old boy. I still think about him, but not about Mary George.

In high school, I was in love with another boy, Terry. I even wrote a story about him, Terry (http://www.eunuch.org/Alpha/T/ea_200540terry___.htm), much of what I wrote being true, especially about how I felt about him. Nothing sexual ever happened between Terry and me. I followed him around like a puppy, until we became friends. I last saw him about 35 years ago.

Anyway, a long explanation to explain why I don't feel I have a sexual "orientation." Most of the stories I write have a "G" classification, but they're somehow more fun. Been there, done that, so many more times with women. Also, it's easier to put myself in a male mind, than it is to put myself in a female mind. Too, no guy ever dumped me, while some women did. Think that has anything to do with it?

In a way, John and Terry are the two unrequited loves of my life. Maybe that's what I'm trying to recreate in my stories.