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Testman (imported)
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Those pellets sound cool but I'm not sure they have been approved by the FDA yet, even though the actual ingredient they contain is certainly approved, the way the FDA is, is even a brand name has to be approved. Like if someone wants to import HGH from over seas and HGH is FDA approved but if it's not one of the approved "brand names" of HGH then the customs will confiscate it and send you a later saying its not FDA approved.
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Testman (imported)
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Wait, here's some talk about testosterone pellets (http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-hea ... 42176.html). One guy says they have in fact been FDA approved.
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Hash (imported)
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Yes, pellet form testosterone is FDA approved. Dr. Lichten gives this info:
As a physician, I can insert the 75 mg FDA approved pellets and the 200 mg fused pellets PREVIOUSLY only available in Europe!
The Organon fused pellet has been in production since 1958. With more than 50 million pellets used, this product had provided the best method for slow-release, steady hormonal replacement. The 200mg pellets we used are physiologically similar to these commercially produced European pellets.
The pellet is loaded in the pellet inserter and placed into the buttock once every 2-5 months. The pellets slowly release the hormone, usually preventing a 'crash' in hormones until the end of treatment. Most insurance companies, including Blue Cross, reimburse the placement of pellets. The pellets may or may not be reimbursable by individual policies. Medicare does not cover pellets.
IF YOUR PHYSICIAN WANTS TO INSERT PELLETS, HE MUST COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING:
STEP 1:
1. You must be a licensed Medical Doctor [M.D.] or D.O. [Doctor of Osteopathy] in the United States.
2. You must be free of any criminal convictions and be in good standing with your state medical board.
3. You must have a valid D.E.A. license, state medical license, and state dispensing license.
4. You must have malpractice insurance.
STEP 2:
1. Make copies of 1,2,3, and 4 listed above.
2. Return the forms to U.S. Doctor Resources, L.L.C. and we will forward the information to the FDA approved pellet making pharmaceutical company.
STEP 3: U.S. Doctor Resources, L.L.C. will sell you a copy of
1. Dr. Lichten's GENDER-SPECIFIC MEDICINE CD lecture series for $29.99 plus $5 handling fee.
2. The material will explain some of the potential applications for Estrogen and Testosterone Pellets, the suggested laboratory testing, the dosage of pellets and the suggested technique for pellet insertion.
Our goal is to allow you the physician the opportunity to learn about new and old treatments that might offer a better medical treatment for your patient, and when possible, to assist in reducing the high cost of prescription medication in the United States.
If you have any questions, you may call the office and speak to us at (248)593.9999r
Correspond by E_MAIL TO:
drlichten@yahoo.com
Sincerely, Edward M. Lichten, M.D.
founder, U.S. Doctor Resources, L.L.C.
As a physician, I can insert the 75 mg FDA approved pellets and the 200 mg fused pellets PREVIOUSLY only available in Europe!
The Organon fused pellet has been in production since 1958. With more than 50 million pellets used, this product had provided the best method for slow-release, steady hormonal replacement. The 200mg pellets we used are physiologically similar to these commercially produced European pellets.
The pellet is loaded in the pellet inserter and placed into the buttock once every 2-5 months. The pellets slowly release the hormone, usually preventing a 'crash' in hormones until the end of treatment. Most insurance companies, including Blue Cross, reimburse the placement of pellets. The pellets may or may not be reimbursable by individual policies. Medicare does not cover pellets.
IF YOUR PHYSICIAN WANTS TO INSERT PELLETS, HE MUST COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING:
STEP 1:
1. You must be a licensed Medical Doctor [M.D.] or D.O. [Doctor of Osteopathy] in the United States.
2. You must be free of any criminal convictions and be in good standing with your state medical board.
3. You must have a valid D.E.A. license, state medical license, and state dispensing license.
4. You must have malpractice insurance.
STEP 2:
1. Make copies of 1,2,3, and 4 listed above.
2. Return the forms to U.S. Doctor Resources, L.L.C. and we will forward the information to the FDA approved pellet making pharmaceutical company.
STEP 3: U.S. Doctor Resources, L.L.C. will sell you a copy of
1. Dr. Lichten's GENDER-SPECIFIC MEDICINE CD lecture series for $29.99 plus $5 handling fee.
2. The material will explain some of the potential applications for Estrogen and Testosterone Pellets, the suggested laboratory testing, the dosage of pellets and the suggested technique for pellet insertion.
Our goal is to allow you the physician the opportunity to learn about new and old treatments that might offer a better medical treatment for your patient, and when possible, to assist in reducing the high cost of prescription medication in the United States.
If you have any questions, you may call the office and speak to us at (248)593.9999r
Correspond by E_MAIL TO:
drlichten@yahoo.com
Sincerely, Edward M. Lichten, M.D.
founder, U.S. Doctor Resources, L.L.C.
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It sounds like a limited pilot/test program by the FDA not like a full approval. --FLO--
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Hash, I just don't understand why it would go to over 1000 mg in your case and I am still around 200 mg.I am folowing the instruction.Which part of body did you put the gel on? H. 
Some people absorb it better then others. Also body weight plays a role in how much you need to get to high high a range. That said Its (I think) very unusual that your so low! What is your dose? Are you heavy set? Do you have steel plated skin???
So you use the Packets or the androgel pump?

Some people absorb it better then others. Also body weight plays a role in how much you need to get to high high a range. That said Its (I think) very unusual that your so low! What is your dose? Are you heavy set? Do you have steel plated skin???
So you use the Packets or the androgel pump?
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plix (imported)
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Day 7.
Erections continue to be constant. But there is no sexual sensation in them, mostly just pressure, and at times they can even be quite painful.
I had only my free T tested prior to castration, so unfortunately I'll never be able to compare total pre and post. My total after surgery tested at 37 ng/dl, and my free prior was 3.75 on a scale of 1.25-5.00. The high half of normal. I don't know whether this is how it works or not, but I'd guess my total T was probably in the upper half of normal as well, which would not be surprising for someone my age.
I will see if I can get a total test on my next doctor visit.
Erections continue to be constant. But there is no sexual sensation in them, mostly just pressure, and at times they can even be quite painful.
I had only my free T tested prior to castration, so unfortunately I'll never be able to compare total pre and post. My total after surgery tested at 37 ng/dl, and my free prior was 3.75 on a scale of 1.25-5.00. The high half of normal. I don't know whether this is how it works or not, but I'd guess my total T was probably in the upper half of normal as well, which would not be surprising for someone my age.
I will see if I can get a total test on my next doctor visit.
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Hash (imported)
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Huevon,
I'm not sure why my testosterone shot up the way it did, except that I suspect my doctor got so worried about it being so low that she instructed me to use a larger dose than normal. I was using two packs of Androgel, totaling 10mg's per day, so that's the answer. Even still, the high testosterone did not cause me to become utlra sexual. I still believe that my overuse of "Tribulus Terrestris" pre-castration messed up things inside of me. I used "Tribulus" because my single testicle was not functioning or producing enough testosterone. Tribulus forces your testicles to produce more testosterone and it really does work, but I didn't "cycle" the Tribulus, in fact I abused it and I believe/know that because I abused it, something is not right with the way my sexual system operates. If you use some drug or herbal medication like Tribulus to force your testicles to produce more testosterone than normal, after a while, it will shut down your sexual system. Anyways, I'm going back to get some tests because of a constant low level pain in my side. I had a CAT Scan last year and they said there is nothing wrong, but I don't believe it. Anyway, take care & God bless. Hash
I'm not sure why my testosterone shot up the way it did, except that I suspect my doctor got so worried about it being so low that she instructed me to use a larger dose than normal. I was using two packs of Androgel, totaling 10mg's per day, so that's the answer. Even still, the high testosterone did not cause me to become utlra sexual. I still believe that my overuse of "Tribulus Terrestris" pre-castration messed up things inside of me. I used "Tribulus" because my single testicle was not functioning or producing enough testosterone. Tribulus forces your testicles to produce more testosterone and it really does work, but I didn't "cycle" the Tribulus, in fact I abused it and I believe/know that because I abused it, something is not right with the way my sexual system operates. If you use some drug or herbal medication like Tribulus to force your testicles to produce more testosterone than normal, after a while, it will shut down your sexual system. Anyways, I'm going back to get some tests because of a constant low level pain in my side. I had a CAT Scan last year and they said there is nothing wrong, but I don't believe it. Anyway, take care & God bless. Hash
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Huevon,
Just remember, Tribulus will not work on eunuchs. Once your testicles are removed you must use testosterone supplements. Since I'm castrated, I don't use it because it will not work. But if you've still got at least one testicle, and want more testosterone, give it a try, it will work, though I'm not sure if making tea with it will work. I got mine from Vitamin World pre-castration. I actually stopped using it because it worked to well on me, and I abused it, didn't cycle it and messed up my sexual system. Check out this site: http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/pro-h ... ffects.htm
Just remember, Tribulus will not work on eunuchs. Once your testicles are removed you must use testosterone supplements. Since I'm castrated, I don't use it because it will not work. But if you've still got at least one testicle, and want more testosterone, give it a try, it will work, though I'm not sure if making tea with it will work. I got mine from Vitamin World pre-castration. I actually stopped using it because it worked to well on me, and I abused it, didn't cycle it and messed up my sexual system. Check out this site: http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/pro-h ... ffects.htm
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plix (imported)
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There's been a change of plans.
I know, no surprise.
Basically, in between my last post and this one, the T really started to work, and I became extremely uncomfortable with the effects. I did not realize how happy I was as a eunuch until I experienced those effects. They felt wrong and I wanted them gone asap. Unfortunately they still linger, but I know I am back on track to where I was until just recently.
I won't look my age for a long time, and I have the risk of severe health problems, but those are prices I am willing to pay for the comfort of eunuchdom.
And of course I could always change my mind yet again and go back on it. If so, I will have a doctor who understands and is willing to help. But for now, I was wrong about wanting to go back on T and I learned a valuable lesson.
Let's see how long until I yet again swing in another direction
I know, no surprise.
Basically, in between my last post and this one, the T really started to work, and I became extremely uncomfortable with the effects. I did not realize how happy I was as a eunuch until I experienced those effects. They felt wrong and I wanted them gone asap. Unfortunately they still linger, but I know I am back on track to where I was until just recently.
I won't look my age for a long time, and I have the risk of severe health problems, but those are prices I am willing to pay for the comfort of eunuchdom.
And of course I could always change my mind yet again and go back on it. If so, I will have a doctor who understands and is willing to help. But for now, I was wrong about wanting to go back on T and I learned a valuable lesson.
Let's see how long until I yet again swing in another direction
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Plix,
That's why I was unwilling to try injectable T: in the case of a bad reaction, I'd want it gone ASAP.
Could you enlighten us? What exactly are you referring to when you say "those effects"? (Venturing a guess, I'd say your libido has returned. T gave me appetites which were horrendous.) Send a PM instead if you don't want to blab about "those effects" here.
Terri
P.S.: In a documentary about sex changes, an FtM talked about the mental effects of T: "It made me interested in sex....all KINDS of sex."
plix (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:05 pm the T really started to work, and I became extremely uncomfortable with the effects. I did not realize how happy I was as a eunuch until I experienced those effects. They felt wrong and I wanted them gone asap.
Plix,
That's why I was unwilling to try injectable T: in the case of a bad reaction, I'd want it gone ASAP.
Could you enlighten us? What exactly are you referring to when you say "those effects"? (Venturing a guess, I'd say your libido has returned. T gave me appetites which were horrendous.) Send a PM instead if you don't want to blab about "those effects" here.
Terri
P.S.: In a documentary about sex changes, an FtM talked about the mental effects of T: "It made me interested in sex....all KINDS of sex."