In Memory of Friends
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Re: In Memory of Friends
It has been a real pleasure working with and under your leadership. Meeting you in person only reinforced our friendship. I know you will be in the back ground and still very supportive of the site. Hope and wish you the very best in health and life.

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A-1 (imported)
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River,
I am glad that you never left completely. If Roj and I can patch things up after our dialectic (http://www.wpunj.edu/cohss/philosophy/c ... ALECTX.HTM) clash over world philosophy of 'things', then possibly you can see that sometimes we take ourselves too seriously.
You needed to shed some responsibility. It is a good thing that you did it before you were psychically exhausted. When I become psychically exhausted I lose a grip on reality. It is as if it becomes as the ancient Taoist sage, Chuang-Tzu once wrote:
Last night Chuang Chou dreamed he was a butterfly, spirits soaring he was a butter fly (is it that in showing what he was suited his own fancy?), and did not know about Chou. When all of a sudden he awoke, he was Chou with all his wits about him. He does not know whether he is Chou who dreams he is a butterfly or a butterfly who dreams he is Chou.
I can identify with this completely because who can truly say what it real and what is an illusion?
I think that when we are faced with undeniable empirical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical) evidence of the workings of the world, we get short with each other and find later that we regret the force with which things get said, on both sides of a discussion. Unfortunately, it is not as easy to forget as it is to forgive and we find ourselves at he end of our rope with our friends from time to time.
We must all learn to be gentle with everyone, but not at our own peril, either physically or mentally, for it is only from solid ground that we can save a friend from drowning, and only then if he will see the need to grab the rope or pole that we intend to use to pull him to solid ground. The danger is that if we jump in with no visible means of support we may be caught up in the swell and washed away with him. Some situations cannot be salvaged and we must learn to let go and to let God handle them.
A-1 
I am glad that you never left completely. If Roj and I can patch things up after our dialectic (http://www.wpunj.edu/cohss/philosophy/c ... ALECTX.HTM) clash over world philosophy of 'things', then possibly you can see that sometimes we take ourselves too seriously.
You needed to shed some responsibility. It is a good thing that you did it before you were psychically exhausted. When I become psychically exhausted I lose a grip on reality. It is as if it becomes as the ancient Taoist sage, Chuang-Tzu once wrote:
Last night Chuang Chou dreamed he was a butterfly, spirits soaring he was a butter fly (is it that in showing what he was suited his own fancy?), and did not know about Chou. When all of a sudden he awoke, he was Chou with all his wits about him. He does not know whether he is Chou who dreams he is a butterfly or a butterfly who dreams he is Chou.
I can identify with this completely because who can truly say what it real and what is an illusion?
I think that when we are faced with undeniable empirical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical) evidence of the workings of the world, we get short with each other and find later that we regret the force with which things get said, on both sides of a discussion. Unfortunately, it is not as easy to forget as it is to forgive and we find ourselves at he end of our rope with our friends from time to time.
We must all learn to be gentle with everyone, but not at our own peril, either physically or mentally, for it is only from solid ground that we can save a friend from drowning, and only then if he will see the need to grab the rope or pole that we intend to use to pull him to solid ground. The danger is that if we jump in with no visible means of support we may be caught up in the swell and washed away with him. Some situations cannot be salvaged and we must learn to let go and to let God handle them.