BBoy

[Mark (imported)]

I just listened to the radio show about BBoy. Among other things, I was surprised to hear he was engaged to be married (I assume to a woman.) I have to confess that I always assumed BBoy was gay. I'm not sure exactly why I believed this - perhaps because of his praise for a number of stories that were gay-themed. Or maybe because I'm gay myself and I just projected that onto him. At any rate, it came as a surprise to me.

I'm certainly sorry that BBoy is no longer with us. Live each day to the fullest, gang!

[Riverwind (imported)]

Thank you Mark,

Yes Bboy was engaged to a woman. Here at eunuch central we are still suffering his loss. B was many things and had many hats, he is missed by so many young and old.

RW

[talula]

Thanks for checking in Mark.

Life without Bboy is going on but his folks still arn't doing well. His mother is still really on the edge and we worry about her.

tal

[luvpain (imported)]

I just listened to the radio show about BBoy. Among other things, I was surprised to hear he was engaged to be married (I assume to a woman.) I have to confess that I always assumed BBoy was gay. I'm not sure exactly why I believed this - perhaps because of his praise for a number of stories that were gay-themed. Or maybe because I'm gay myself and I just projected that onto him. At any rate, it came as a surprise to me.

I'm certainly sorry that BBoy is no longer with us. Live each day to the fullest, gang!

I don't understand why everyone gets so confused on the subject of gay/straight so much. There are very few people that are total gay or straight, you may speak out against it but have done it in the past or lust to do it.

Now think about the common thing Bi-Sexual, You may prefer men over women so may be labeled as gay or the opposite straight but still like the other sex. Bboy found a girlfriend that meant a lot to him that's why he stepped down a year ago so he could spend more time with her if I recall correctly from the previous postings.

True real love and commitment will overcome all and it seemed Bboy was willing to give up this site to talula, Paolo and others.

Bboy was a great guy, he may have been gay for the most part but he found a woman that it sounds like gave him true love and happiness. I wouldn't let that bother you any sometimes the role changes and a gay person does it to someone that is mostly straight. Just call that the luck of the draw of being bi-sexual.

[Paolo]

Luv has it exactly right.

And B. was one hell of a kisser, too - trust me.

[JeffEunuch (imported)]

I don't understand why everyone gets so confused on the subject of gay/straight so much. There are very few people that are total gay or straight.....Now think about the common thing Bi-Sexual, You may prefer men over women so may be labeled as gay or the opposite straight but still like the other sex. Bboy found a girlfriend that meant a lot to him.......Bboy was a great guy, he may have been gay for the most part but he found a woman that it sounds like gave him true love and happiness.

In previous times, most gay guys could not be out. They sometimes married, and many nevertheless lived happily with or without offspring as well even if pairing with a woman was not their first preference.

Even today when being out is easier, many gay guys end up being paired with women for a period of time. It happened to me for 10 years. The union satisfied my desire to also be part of a family unit even if sex and friendship with other guys was my preference. My now late ex seemed to like gay guys. She was friends with many. We occasionally enjoyed threesomes with others. Social gatherings at our home were usually mixed gay, str8. She was aware that I wasn't totally comfortable with coitus, and most of our sex was thus oral or just mutual masturbation. It worked for a long time, and I sired and raised 2 kids (+ 1 miscarriage). As we know, gender relations are a most interesting subject.

[surf_toad (imported)]

i am str8. i have never had a desire for anything but a heterosexual relationship, but most of my friends here are either bi or gay. that never stopped me from chatting with them. i think at least 80% of the guys are latently bi. at least between the age of 16 to (about) 20 when they grow up together in the gym and compair size and stories about the anatomy of various of their female classmates (thought most of this is lies anyway). as they grow older (notice the second party, i was the kid they halled behind the gym and beat up to prove their manhood) the puritanical viewpoints we are raised under (if you subscribe to religion) take over and they have to deni their latencies and become strictly heterosexual, lest they burn in hell.

i feel that this is the root of the (if not hatred, atleast) unacceptance of anything that falls to the left or right of the middle of the road.

personally i do not like sex with women. probably due to embarassment and i have never desired sex with a man. But i am married and have raised 3 children and did a relatively good job of impersonating a man for 48 years.

i wish the world could shed the lables and just accept each individual as the individual that they are and we would get along so much better.

peace.

toad

[Mark (imported)]

I agree with many of the statements made above. We like to label things in order to understand them better, but humans aren't that easy to categorize. The whole concept of "homosexual" and "heterosexual" date back only to the late 19th century in western culture. Before that it was just assumed that everybody was naturally "heterosexual" although some people engaged in same-sex acts on occasion. These acts were almost universally considered "sinful" and "sick" in western culture and were condemned as such in the bible. In many other cultures, such as Native American, people oriented to their own sex were accepted and sometimes even held in high esteem in their communities. When Christian missionaries infiltrated these cultures, they brought with them their beliefs about "shameful" sexual behavior - which included almost everything having to do with sex!

Hopefully, we are moving toward a world in which people are allowed to express a wide range of sexual identities, and the need to label people "gay" or "straight" or "bisexual" will disappear.

[JeffEunuch (imported)]

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. We like to label things in order to understand them better, but humans aren't that easy to categorize. The whole concept of "homosexual" and "heterosexual" date back only to the late 19th century in western culture. Before that it was just assumed that everybody was naturally "heterosexual" although some people engaged in same-sex acts on occasion. In many other cultures, such as Native American, people oriented to their own sex were accepted and sometimes even held in high esteem in their communities. When Christian missionaries infiltrated these cultures, they brought with them their beliefs about "shameful" sexual behavior - which included almost everything having to do with sex!

Hopefully, we are moving toward a world in which people are allowed to express a wide range of sexual identities, and the need to label people "gay" or "straight" or "bisexual" will disappear.

The final frontier - legitimation of same-sex marriage - is in the process of being crossed in Canada today. The Supreme Court of Canada has confirmed that the Parliament has the right to define whom may be married, and the Prime Minister has confirmed that he intends to alter the Marriage Act by the end of 2005. There will be considerable opposition to the legislation, probably more than to any Parliamentary act in over a generation, but the PM says he has the votes to proceed (being a free vote by MPs in accordance with personal conscience, the Government would not fall should his mathe not be correct). We've now had court-ordered same-sex marriage for over a year in many provinces and many hundreds of marriages, and the institution of marriage remains intact.

The Netherlands and Belgium have preceded Canada down this path.

[surf_toad (imported)]

i think about now, we need to be thinking up ways to buy our own island. Remember the pendulum swings from liberal to conservative and back and forth from over compensation to over correction. we need to just get off at some point.