How to be banned

[Riverwind (imported)]

I just went back and read every post he made and from the start people suggested he seek mental health. The advice given here was sound and right, Nestor just chose not to accept it always with the come back that it was somehow everybody elses issue, the government is shitty the health care is bad, were poor he was the table of excuses and many times over the couple years he was here he was told to go to mental health.

But somehow you think were to blame? For giving him the right answer.

Marius, were not new to this and my response above was heartfelt and after reading all his posts and those who responded to him I stand by my statement.

River

[JesusA (imported)]

In some of his earlier posts last year Nestor wrote that he would like to find a counselor to talk with. I offered to use my contacts to try to find him one who was free or low cost and near his home. The offer was rebuffed. I assumed then that he was more interested in venting his anger than in seeking help. I'm not sure that anyone who was not in physical contact with him could have helped, and not even then might it have been possible. Thank you for being there and trying, but it may have been impossible with his state of mind.

[MariusS. (imported)]

I just went back and read every post he made and from the start people suggested he seek mental health. The advice given here was sound and right, Nestor just chose not to accept it always with the come back that it was somehow everybody elses issue, the government is shitty the health care is bad, were poor he was the table of excuses and many times over the couple years he was here he was told to go to mental health.

But somehow you think were to blame? For giving him the right answer.

Marius, were not new to this and my response above was heartfelt and after reading all his posts and those who responded to him I stand by my statement.

River

This is the callousness I'm talking about. Did you ever once consider that his excuses were legitimate? No, you never actually thought about his situation, you just didn't care. You dismissed his plight as excuses and tried to shoo him off. How would he have even gotten mental health in his condition anyway? Did you help him with that? Did you try to alleviate his fears about being mistreated? No, and considering a retired shrink was among you maybe he was justified in distrusting mental health professionals. You didn't give him the answer, or at least you didn't give it in the right way. You completely disregarded the situation he was in and failed to understand how fragile his mind was. You may not have made him pull the trigger, but your callous and incompetent treatment of him here certainty didn't help deter him from it. You all collectively have some

of his blood on your hands and you should own up to it.

In some of his earlier posts last year Nestor wrote that he would like to find a counselor to talk with. I offered to use my contacts to try to find him one who was free or low cost and near his home. The offer was rebuffed. I assumed then that he was more interested in venting his anger than in seeking help. I'm not sure that anyone who was not in physical contact with him could have helped, and not even then might it have been possible. Thank you for being there and trying,

but it may have been impossible with his state of mind.

Maybe in the future you should make less assumptions. When I tried to talk to him he always seemed terrified and afterwords he would literally run out the door and bolt down the street(I thought at first that he may have stolen something but he would occasionally do those weird compulsive back-steps and mumble to himself when he was right outside the door, not something a thief trying to escape would do), it was a feat just to get him to give me his email. When I talked to him online he told me it was very hard to talk to people face to face, it caused him intense anxiety and made it very difficult for him to control his intrusive thoughts, he said that it was much easier to talk with people online. When I talked with him about seeing a psychologist, he said he wouldn't even consider it without his dad approving of it and going with it. He said he was completely dependent on his dad and was afraid to take any major action without him. But his dad was like most people here and didn't see how mentally unstable he really was, and he was also very hostile to the mental health system here and told him they couldn't afford it, so he wouldn't get him any help. So maybe people here could have tried to give him some kind of therapy, especially since one person here is claimed to be an ex-shrink, or at least try to sympathize with him instead of make dismissive assumptions about him.

[Paolo]

Sorry, we're not omnipotent. You'll need to go elsewhere for that, MariusS.

We're supposed to infer all that you expect of us from posts on an Internet forum?

Pal, YOU are the one who needs help now!

Most of us having been dealing with Internet trolls on boards like this since 1995 or so, and that is EXACTLY how Nestor came across to many of us.

He certainly did to me.

As I said, and as others have said, ANYTHING that was said to your buddy was met with hostility and derision.

I think you've got all the answers you need, and it's time for YOU to leave.

Goodbye.

You'll be IP banned in 24 hours, so you have the chance to read this.

As far as callous? You want callous? I can give you that until Hell freezes over.

I'll come right out and say it - I have ZERO feelings for you, or Nestor.

[MariusS. (imported)]

Sorry, we're not omnipotent. You'll need to go elsewhere for that, MariusS.

We're supposed to infer all that you expect of us from posts on an Internet forum?

Pal, YOU are the one who needs help now!

Most of us having been dealing with Internet trolls on boards like this since 1995 or so, and that is EXACTLY how Nestor came across to many of us.

He certainly did to me.

As I said, and as others have said, ANYTHING that was said to your buddy was met with hostility and derision.

I think you've got all the answers you need, and it's time for YOU to leave.

Goodbye.

You'll be IP banned in 24 hours, so you have the chance to read this.

As far as callous? You want callous? I can give you that until Hell freezes over.

I'll come right out and say it - I have ZERO feelings for you, or Nestor.

You make me physically ill, you are a disgusting excuse for a human being. I can't wait for you to get what's coming to you, because you sure as hell have it coming. Maybe then you will learn to have empathy, but you probably won't because you're a worthless sociopath.

[kristoff]

Sorry to deprive you of the pleasure P, but I elected not to wait. He's had his see and say. The idealism of youth is often unseeing and unforgiving. Thread closed, user banned by name and ISP.

[Paolo]

God damn, he knows me so well.