and you think I get mean on movie reviews?

[Dave (imported)]

>>Damn, I could take lessons in mean from this critic:

>>It's probably a fight movie and a brutal fight movie at that. Mu Thai is always brutal.

>>Who knows. One day HBO or STARZ will show it and I'll sneak a peak free (sort of free)...

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'Only God Forgives' Reviews: Ryan Gosling's Latest With Nicolas Winding Refn Gets Heat From Critics; Screening Booed

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When Ryan Gosling and Nicolas Winding Refn last teamed for a film, the result was "Drive," a hyper-violent and critically beloved dreamscape that earned rave reviews at the 2011 Cannes Film Festival and won Refn the Best Director trophy from the festival's jury. Judging from the early response to "Only God Forgives," the pair's latest collaboration, don't expect a repeat.

"The wallpaper emotes more than Ryan Gosling does in 'Only God Forgives,' an exercise in supreme style and minimal substance from 'Drive' director Nicolas Winding Refn," wrote Peter Debruge for Variety, a slam that seems almost quaint in comparison to the vitriol posted by Hollywood Elsewhere proprietor Jeff Wells:

Movies really don't get much worse than Nicholas Winding Refn‘s Only God Forgives. It’s a shit macho fantasy — hyperviolent, ethically repulsive, sad, nonsensical, deathly dull, snail-paced, idiotic, possibly woman-hating, visually suffocating, pretentious. I realize I sound like Rex Reed on one of his rants, but trust me, please — this is a defecation by an over-praised, over-indulged director who thinks anything he craps out is worthy of your time. I felt violated, shat upon, sedated, narcotized, appalled and bored stiff.

Set in Thailand, "Only God Forgives" focuses on Julian (Gosling), a small-time criminal who runs an boxing club in Bangkok. After his brother Billy (Tom Burke) is brutally murdered by a police captain named Chang (Vithaya Pansringarm), Julian seeks revenge at the behest of his Lady Macbethian mother (Kristin Scott Thomas).

"Refn has made a name for himself with spartan narratives, but there's maybe even less story on offer here than before, and what there is feels kind of crammed into the last third of the film," wrote Jessica Kiang in her review for The Playlist. "[W]ith no truly relatable characters to compel us along between the occasional (glorious) fight or maiming scene, layers of style are lavished on in a threadbare plot a way that feels like they're compensating for a lack."

To that end, Refn explained what he was going for with "Only God Forgives" during a press conference after the screening:

The idea of Julian's character was a man who was on some sort of journey but he did not know what he is going towards. We spoke about the character of the sleep walker, destined to move, who does not know where he going. He is bound and chained to his mother's womb. To release that he has to go through several levels of violence. Why doesn't he speak? Maybe because the language of silence is far more potent.

At least one critic, however, seems to have got what Refn was trying to accomplish.

"'Only God Forgives' will, understandably, have people running for the exits, and running for the hills. It is very violent, but Winding Refn's bizarre infernal creation, an entire created world of fear, really is gripping," wrote Guardian critic Peter Bradshaw in his five-star review. "Every scene, every frame, is executed with pure formal brilliance. I'm afraid it's going to be even nastier the next time I watch it."

For more on why Gosling wasn't able to attend the Cannes Film Festival to support "Only God Forgives," click here. "Only God Forgives" reviews and reactions can be found in the tweets below.

"Only God Forgives" is out in U.S. theaters on July 19

[Dave (imported)]

>>And then there is this revelation from the director of Start Trek the Darkness arrives and subsumes the Federation in yet another attempt to part the audience from their cash (sorry, that's my long title)...

>>What a fool to admit this AFTER he had many chances to take the damn scene out.

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In the second "Star Trek" film, which was released on May 16th, Alice Eve, who plays Dr. Carol Marcus, one of the few speaking female roles, strips down to her underwear for no explicable reason. This prompted an outcry from "Star Trek" fans such as The Mary Sue's Jill Pantozzi. She explained her issue with the scene thusly:

Eve’s character of Dr. Carol Marcus was touted to have incredible intelligence, though instead of allowing her to use it to effect the plot, she was used as the most blatant eye-candy I’ve seen in a long time. We see this kind of thing a lot in Hollywood, sure, but the scene in question was akin to an actor holding up and verbally speaking the name of a can of Coca-Cola during a scene about cats or general surgery.

[Riverwind (imported)]

>>Damn, I could take lessons in mean from this critic:

>>It's probably a fight movie and a brutal fight movie at that. Mu Thai is always brutal.

>>Who knows. One day HBO or STARZ will show it and I'll sneak a peak free (sort of free)...

Movies really don't get much worse than Nicholas Winding Refn

‘s Only God Forgives. It’s a shit macho fantasy —

hyperviolent, ethically repulsive, sad, nonsensical, deathly dull, snail-paced, idiotic, possibly woman-hating, visually suffocating, pretentious. I realize I sound like Rex Reed on one of his rants, but trust me, please — this is a defecation by an over-praised, over-indulged director who thinks anything he craps out is worthy of your time. I felt violated, shat upon, sedated, narcotized, appalled and bored stiff.

WOW I think I want to see this movie, with that kind of a review its going to be good.

Reminds me of a quote from Robert Heinlein

'A "critic" is a man who creates nothing and thereby feels qualified to judge the work of creative men. There is logic in this, he is unbiased--he hates all creative people equally.'

from'Time Enough for Love', Second intermission.

River

[Riverwind (imported)]

>>And then there is this revelation from the director of Start Trek the Darkness arrives and subsumes the Federation in yet another attempt to part the audience from their cash (sorry, that's my long title)...

>>What a fool to admit this AFTER he had many chances to take the damn scene out.

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In the second "Star Trek" film, which was released on May 16th, Alice Eve, who plays Dr. Carol Marcus, one of the few speaking female roles, strips down to her underwear for no explicable reason. This prompted an outcry from "Star Trek" fans such as The Mary Sue's Jill Pantozzi. She explained her issue with the scene thusly:

Eve’s character of Dr. Carol Marcus was touted to have incredible intelligence, though instead of allowing her to use it to effect the plot, she was used as the most blatant eye-candy I’ve seen in a long time. We see this kind of thing a lot in Hollywood, sure, but the scene in question was akin to an actor holding up and verbally speaking the name of a can of Coc
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a-Cola during a scene about cats or general surgery.

First, is there something wrong with eye-candy?

I guess I missed it because the two cats with tails at the start of the movie with Kirk were eye candy but it was a short clip. We could have seen a bit more of them. But neither were part of the main story line, so is this critic just out to trash anything he sees of just action films?

River

[Dave (imported)]

The second critic was all upset that women were being objectivised in a cheesy way.

And my thought is that if that single scene is the reason this critic didn't enjoy the movie and if that scene was so awful that the critic needed to bug the director then that critic ought to give up movies.

I thought that STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS was overhyped but I still going to watch it whenever it hits cable and most likely I watch it preferentially as a repeat.

But one scene of a woman in bra and panties isn't enough to make me not want to see the movie.