Others like me?

[Cheche (imported)]

I posted a thread earlier entitled 'Voluntary Chemical Castration' (10/11/09).

Are there any other folks out there that are in a similar situation as I am. That is, heterosexual male simply desiring CRT to eliminate libido. Would never consider orch or other physical procedures.

Also, though I have thought about this issue long and hard for many years (at least 5, maybe 10) and have researched the pros and cons as much as possible, I still have doubts about doing this. Has anyone else ever had their doubts?

I also am concerned now that I have 'put myself out into the open' with this issue. I've addressed my concerns on several other forums and am now worried I have violated my own privacy. I would not be ashamed to have the procedure, and am indeed on the fence about wanting to advertise it to the world that I want to have this done. Having said that, it's still a big step... both the procedure and the confusion about advertising vs. keeping private.

What does everyone think?

John

PS One of my huge concernes was when I did a google search on my user name, it brought up this forum and when I clicked on the link it took me directly to my post! There apparently is no requirement to register on this forum to read it's contents. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I feel a little bit of privacy and confidentiality would go a long way towards bringing in folks that might be thinking about this but concerned about their privacy as well.

[snakecharmer (imported)]

I can't speak for others but I know there are an number of folks here with similar thoughts on chemical castration. I chose chemical castration for this objective, to reduce my libido and get some control on my sexual thoughts and desires.

As to your privacy concerns...I tried using yahoo search on your chosen profile name and did not come up with any link to this site. Perhaps a more refined search would pull it up? Someone would need to be looking for you to find info so I gather.

Cheers

Ron

[nullorchis (imported)]

I have suggested numerous times that before even seeing postings there be a requirement for everyone to register with a user name and password. No luck. I don't think it is right that any one, especially under age, can just search the internet and get into the back door of the archive and read about adult material. While the moderators do work hard to keep postings of a high caliber (only they know how much gets deleted before it can be seen), it just doesn't seem right that anyone can see postings through a search engine link. Of course to remain anonymous why wouldn't you use what use to be called in the "CB" world, a "Handle", a codeword that only you and your confidants know for a particular group. Eventually you will dump so called friends who won't accept you and you can live a free open life among people who know you for all you are and don't judge you; that's living !

Beyond that if you want to see what it is like to have reduced libido drug suppression of testosterone production might be what you want to try. Volumes of info about that here on the EA. Just search for 'androcur' or 'siterone', and read read read.

[kristoff]

We do not guarantee privacy here, except in PMs and the backroom information. All posts are public. We DO want Google and other engines to send their web crawlers through, we DO want people to be able to find us. This place provides a valuable resource for those who need it. Perhaps you havent noticed - our traffic has dropped significantly since Google removed us from the presented search results. We're trying to get that restored. We do require folks to register who want unfettered access, and we do not allow minors to have such unfettered access. On the other hand, given that Google has us all over the place, it is impossible to stop anyone from searching and finding a particular page. They would have to keep doing searches to find other stuff.

As others have so aptly stated before: If you don't want anyone to see something, don't put it on the internet. Or, if you do put it on there, DON'T use your own name (or nick, or whatever).

[Senjougahara (imported)]

I can absolutely see where you're coming from with your privacy concerns, however as kristoff says it's important that both Google and guests can read posts or no new members would ever join. Best advice is to avoid posting any personal info at all and to choose a username that you're not using anywhere else on the internet.

As for your chemical castration concerns, it's not as if it's an irreversible procedure. If you don't like the results all you need to do is stop taking the drugs and you'll be back to "normal". Are you still having difficulty getting your doctors to prescribe you antiandrogens? I know you have concerns about self medicating, but if your doctor won't give you the treatment you feel you need then you need to make a choice. Either acquire the meds for yourself or resign yourself to life with testosterone.

[_g (imported)]

I can absolutely see where you're coming from with your privacy concerns, however as kristoff says it's important that both Google and guests can read posts or no new members would ever join. Best advice is to avoid posting any personal info at all and to choose a username that you're not using anywhere else on the internet.

As for your chemical castration concerns, it's not as if it's an irreversible procedure. If you don't like the results all you need to do is stop taking the drugs and you'll be back to "normal". Are you still having difficulty getting your doctors to prescribe you antiandrogens? I know you have concerns about self medicating, but if your doctor won't give you the treatment you feel you need then you need to make a choice. Either acquire the meds for yourself or resign yourself to life with testosterone.

Note as far as chemical castration being reversible that is a "Your Milage May Very" item. The longer your are on the drugs the more likely that the effects will become irreversible.

_g

[nullorchis (imported)]

There are food/beverage/herbal diets that claim to assist/enhance the production/utilization of testosterohe or DHT, and other such consumption that inhibits the production/utilization of T or DHT. How effective they are would an individual response.

That failing to meet expectations really the only short term way (2-3 months) to determine if you like life without testosterone would be chemicals to repress the production/utilization of testosterone. The manufacturer claims you can stop at any time and return to your personal normal. Maybe, maybe not. You might need to take the drug forever to be testosterone "free'. Or after six months or so you might be able to stop taking it and your testosterone production will remain in complete remission. Either way it won't be close to being the same as being testicle free (a nirvana that I have been unable to achieve).

I'm being redundant to regular readers, but since you are new, for your benefit, if you are still checking the board, a final comment: Having experimented with Siterone, I, for one, have been pleased with its quickness and effectiveness in working, but not its cost. Two months was my trial run, costing around $100 plus a month for a 200mg/day dose in month 1 and 150mg/day dose in month 2. Although mg/day and the cost would hopefully decrease somewhere around month four or five. It only took about 2 weeks for me to return to my "personal normal" T level, which is naturally way below normal-normal even for a person of my age, but still too high for me. Hopefully I can re-arrange my finances next year so that I can continue the medication all year, and beyond if necessary. Being "T-Free" is a mental/emotional and physical freedom that was, for a short time, a very positive experience for me.

[nullorchis (imported)]

On the subject of granting access to anyone so that people who are interested in being "T-FREE" (T being either testosterone or testes), well there must be a way to have a separate web site or introductory site with sample postings, sample information, that gets the message across, is minor legal, and doesn't permit access to the whole thing.

Assuming it is true that Google (and maybe others) have subordinated the EA on their search engines it might be because they too don't think that minors should be able to access the entire site via access through search results on a single posting. Access that way means you never see the first page warning. Since there are ways of getting the message out to people who want and need help, and ways of protecting minors from accessing information that they should not be accessing, not throwing up a wall to protect minors ranges from either not right to maybe illegal in some places. Thus, I remain convinced that enrollment to confirm that one is of legal age before one sees any unedited postings on the site should be a site policy.

[fhunter]

On the subject of granting access to anyone so that people who are interested in being "T-FREE" (T being either testosterone or testes), well there must be a way to have a separate web site or introductory site with sample postings, sample information, that gets the message across, is minor legal, and doesn't permit access to the whole thing.

Assuming it is true that Google (and maybe others) have subordinated the EA on their search engines it might be because they too don't think that minors should be able to access the entire site via access through search results on a single posting. Access that way means you never see the first page warning. Since there are ways of getting the message out to people who want and need help, and ways of protecting minors from accessing information that they should not be accessing, not throwing up a wall to protect minors ranges from either not right to maybe illegal in some places. Thus, I remain convinced that enrollment to confirm that one is of legal age before one sees any unedited postings on the site should be a site policy.

This whole debate should be in separate thread, but I will answer here.

Google lowers sites in its ratings for the multitude of reasons, be it perceived attempts of artificially increasing raiting, or spreading malware/phishing. I have read in the other thread a passing mentioning about script on the front page, which could be the cause of this.

You just can not confirm that you are of legal age on the internet. Button "I am 18 or older, take me in" (or registration) does nothing. It is just a smoke screen. Visually the problem is solved. Underneath - how can you really confirm, if the person is legal age or not?

Protection of kids etc, from the dangers of internet is a task for parents/guardians. Not the sites or government. Don't like, what you kid can see on the net - put a filter. You can not do it - give it to professionals, there are lots of different kinds of such software.

I could have added some more points, but I think, that for now it is sufficient.

[kristoff]

This whole debate should be in separate thread, but I will answer here.

Google lowers sites in its ratings for the multitude of reasons, be it perceived attempts of artificially increasing raiting, or spreading malware/phishing. I have read in the other thread a passing mentioning about script on the front page, which could be the cause of this.

You just can not confirm that you are of legal age on the internet. Button "I am 18 or older, take me in" (or registration) does nothing. It is just a smoke screen. Visually the problem is solved. Underneath - how can you really confirm, if the person is legal age or not?

Protection of kids etc, from the dangers of internet is a task for parents/guardians. Not the sites or government. Don't like, what you kid can see on the net - put a filter. You can not do it - give it to professionals, there are lots of different kinds of such software.

I could have added some more points, but I think, that for now it is sufficient.

As we understand things for now, they don't like some of the content of the story archive. They bowed to pressure from the German government