Probably for the same reasons that I'd be insulted if I were identified as female. I'm not, and that'd really upset me. Yet I don't identify as male either, at least I don't think so - not in my own mind. I know plenty of "real males", so to speak, and most of them make me ill. Maybe that's why I almost always score in the middle or neutral on gender tests?

I can remember growing up, always telling myself - and even up into my early 20's - "I'm never going to be like that!" - when looking at the males in my life.

OK

I will put a little twist on this discussion. If someone what to know what my gender is I would say that I am most closely related to being a “Neutrois”. It is not a very common term but once I found the site I felt that the basic definition fits me well. I was born in a male body but not really a male. I am far less a female. If one would ask what sex I am, I say that I am asexual. That is not because I am now a very happy eunuch. I was born asexual with some gay tendencies.

So I guess I am an eunuch Neutrois.

Here is a link to the Neutrois. The original site is dead but it is backed up on this site. http://neutrois.0catch.com/defin.htm

There is a yahoo group as well but not very active. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neutroisoutpost/

i once felt like a seed.

all that was needed to keep me happy was water n warmth.

then i grew a bit and craved more,

a bit of soil and sun.

as i grew larger,

i became unhappy.

i no longer wanted to take in those things which made me large,

i hated all the tangled limbs dangling from my spirit.

choosing elimination was inevitable,

taking it upon myself i dismembered a bit.

and once again am happy,

seeking out new fertilization,

i grow.

z

thanks z I hope you are okay!!!!!!!!!!!! nice words.....

Paolo-most real males make you ill? Well considering im a guy and am glad to be a guy! im not sure what to say.......

Id think no gender is better than the other, people suck in general..

It was always the feeling of being out of control sexually that made me do things that were dangerous to me. Males in particular do stupid dangerous things, prompted by testosterone. Somehow my desire to be castrated was also in part, prompted by testosterone, figure that out. My problem is that I cannot live without some testosterone, so I use a low dosage supplement. The benefit is that I am now able to control the testosterone in body. Since it is "low dose" my testosterone ranges between 150-200ml (normal male 300-1200). That's enough to keep away the depression problems and as yet, no signs of osteoporosis, though my endocrinologist thinks in time that will reveal itself. Gender wise, I am male with hypogonadism, low testosterone, but I no longer put myself in dangerous sexual sitiuations. I feel free from the dominating effects of testosterone that once pushed me to do stupid, dangeous things that may have cost me my life.

I was flipping channels and watched a segment of a penis enlargement commercial. I had no desire to include myself in the stupidity of what they were trying to sell. I could truly say, "Who cares!" Women don't care, in fact, most women would rather have a loving relationship than a giant penis. They'd rather choose someone who truly cares about them over a testosterone controlled maniac with a large penis who keeps looking for a sexual liasion with yet another woman. Only women who are using/taking "testosterone" can understand what men go through. Bottom line, if I'm considered less of a man because my testosterone level is just a little higher than a woman's "t" level, fine by me.

Sorry in advice if this comes out wrong, as its truly not meant too.

Seen as we are on the subject of the differences between male and female

I'm very interested to know now, if I get castrated, does that make me NOT a male anymore?

Like, is it the Testosterone in a person that makes them male and Estrogen than makes them female?

Not to be male anymore is what I want, how do I achieve this?

I am utterly confused...

you are telling me that men are more horny than women? If you truly believe that, then you have been brain washed...

Maybe you were just an exceptionally highly sexed male, but there are plenty of women about like that aswell!!!

And when you say most women want a loving relationship rather than a huge penis? well lets leave the penis thing out, because im sure some women do like big ones and im sure a lot dont care as long as it works!!!

people are differnt...we all like differnt body shapes, please dont do the old cliche about men being sex mad and women liking relationships, because quite frankly what an absolute load of shit..

I think you are blaming testosterone, when it was YOU-you chose to do these things, whatever they are.

men dont have one night stands with no one, you know? women are as sexual as men in EVERY way, just because they dont have cocks dont mean they rnt as sexual as a man...

it seems some of you guys have been hanging around too many feminists..who spout a load of anti male bullshit.

Im proud to me a man!!!!!!

Thank goodness for people like Jack nicholson and Mickey rourke, men who dont give a damn about those feminist propaganda merchants!!!

truly committed (imported) wrote: Thu May 03, 2007 3:23 am I am utterly confused...

you are telling me that men are more horny than women? If you truly believe that, then you have been brain washed...

Maybe you were just an exceptionally highly sexed male, but there are plenty of women about like that aswell!!!

And when you say most women want a loving relationship rather than a huge penis? well lets leave the penis thing out, because im sure some women do like big ones and im sure a lot dont care as long as it works!!!

people are differnt...we all like differnt body shapes, please dont do the old cliche about men being sex mad and women liking relationships, because quite frankly what an absolute load of shit..

I think you are blaming testosterone, when it was YOU-you chose to do these things, whatever they are.

men dont have one night stands with no one, you know? women are as sexual as men in EVERY way, just because they dont have cocks dont mean they rnt as sexual as a man...

it seems some of you guys have been hanging around too many feminists..who spout a load of anti male bullshit.

Im proud to me a man!!!!!!

Thank goodness for people like Jack nicholson and Mickey rourke, men who dont give a damn about those feminist propaganda merchants!!!

For a minute there I thought you where talking to me. I take it its Hash you are talking to?

uh huh sorry!!!!!!

truly committed (imported) wrote: Wed May 02, 2007 3:51 pm then again its still differnt among people, i reallly dont want to cry when i drop my pen.....

I really don't want to either, but damnit, that was my favorite pen!!