chemcast scot (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:54 am In any relationship mf ff mm the be all and end all is not penetration there is a lot more to a relationship that penitrave sex there is love and companionship so i would say that not everyone will desire penitration

Yes, you are right. I understand that.

Perhaps I'm either naive or unrealistic. After some careful consideration, I determine to have a vagina. I guess it's my sexual need of intercourse. Nevertheless, I want to do so in the context of love. I'm 25 and never have sex. I don't need it to be sacred, but I want it to be special for the man I love. I don't like just jumping on some guy and have orgasm and that's it.

Assuming that a guy gives me that offer, I will refuse it.

Unfortunately, it seems like American men, gay or straight, put sex as a priority before love. I checked yahoo group about men who want vagina. It seems like people there want guys with vagina to meet their sexual fetish. Few people are serious about relationship.

This is just my general observation. I don't mean to offend you or anyone else. Please don't take it personally.

MinhY

I would love to have my male genitals transformed into a clitoris and lips without having a vaginal canal. I would want to be on HRT to retain my male looks though and avoid the medical problems of no testosterone in my system, such as low bone density, etc... I would also retain my prostrate so I can still have orgasms.

I am not gay or bi, it is just what I desire. My desire has nothing to do with sex or the BDSM Alt. lifestyle or Mistress/slave dynamics, although I am submissive. If it was easily possible to have it done then I would already have gone through the procedure.

Why am I posting this? Not really sure. I am not looking for approval, Definitely not looking to be ridiculed or analyzed, just throwing in my 2 cents, so to speak : ))

MrMoJo1007 (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:18 am I would love to have my male genitals transformed into a clitoris and lips without having a vaginal canal. I would want to be on HRT to retain my male looks though and avoid the medical problems of no testosterone in my system, such as low bone density, etc... I would also retain my prostrate so I can still have orgasms.

I am not gay or bi, it is just what I desire. My desire has nothing to do with sex or the BDSM Alt. lifestyle or Mistress/slave dynamics, although I am submissive. If it was easily possible to have it done then I would already have gone through the procedure.

Why am I posting this? Not really sure. I am not looking for approval, Definitely not looking to be ridiculed or analyzed, just throwing in my 2 cents, so to speak : ))

Are you saying that the surgery that creates vagina also removes the prostate?

It doesn't remove the prostate but it does remove the testicles (normally).

symempathy (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:34 pm Thank you for your explanation.

I still want to know why there is Master and slave. If it's just purely physical sex, I have nothing to say. However, if penetration is a form of expression our love, no one should feel like a slave or master, shouldn't they?

Perhaps I don't entirely understand what you are trying to say. Anyway, I'm hopelessly romantic. I don't need a man to treat me like a prince, but I want him to respect me. Hence, I feel slightly weird when there is a dominant role and submissive one in a relationship.

See Bierce's definition of marriage as

A state or union, comprising a master, a mistress and two slaves, making in all two.

Transward

polarthong (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:43 am It doesn't remove the prostate but it does remove the testicles (normally).

Honestly, I think I can care less about my testicles. The only reason I want to have sex is that I love my man. Having a vagina makes that convenient and intimate. It is certainly not the only reason why I want a vagina.

It's an almost inexplicable desire. Look back to the beginning of his thread. It's quite complicated.

polarthong (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:52 am It's an almost inexplicable desire. Look back to the beginning of his thread. It's quite complicated.

Yes, it's complicated.

I have a question, polarthong. You had sex change, so your vagina looks like that of cisgendered women, doesn't it?

I saw anatomy of a vagina, and I realize that what I want is simply to have a hole. Sorry for being graphic.

I don't need to have labia majora or minora; I don't even need a clitoris. The depth of my vagina is all I care about. I'm not a MtF transsexual, so how it looks doesn't matter. The simpler it looks, the better.

Do you think I'm crazy?

I wouldn't say that. I'm of the opinion that people need to be able to feel comfortable and have the body that's right for them.

I would soooo love to have a type of surgery like this.