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Re: DP on the way
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:30 pm
by genderless (imported)
Fellow christian here. I beleive it is a calling for me to go ahead with castration and a penectomy in the near future, if not more.
It is hardly for everyone to do.
Re: DP on the way
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:36 pm
by consideringthecut (imported)
So I went to my general practitioner two weeks ago. She didn't do everything I asked but neither was she unsypathetic. She ordered some lab work (only one of the
that I wanted and she didn't do the baseline bone density scan.) and referred me to a psychiatiric LPN and a Licensed Clinical Social Worker at another practice, and said that she would refer me on to one of two urologists later depending on what the LPN and LCSW found. My GP suspected Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, which I was skeptical of. I had a good chat with the LPN, and she said that she didn't see any strong indication of OCD and that pharmaceutical treatment for OCD was tenuous and required very high doses. She passed me on to her partner the LCSW the next day. She thought I my desired course of action was a bit extreme and encouraged me to seek more counseling because I really hadn't tried that route. I indicated that I might come back to see her, but that I wanted to meet with a urologist. I called my GP back for a referal and she read me the lab results. Surprise - high testosterone! I was shocked! Anyway she referred me to a male urologist here in town and I indicated that I would probably use the other for a second opinion. The DP is sitting in the fridge at the moment. I'd rather take it under a physician's orders if possible, I'm also defering it until I run a race that's part of a bet at work and build an outbuilding for my house. Hopefully it will all be accomplished by mid-August. I haven't said anything to my friends at church or my pastor, but I'm glad to know that I'm not crazy and that my high libido isn't just a figment of my imagination. I'm tired of being tempted to stare at co-workers thighs and cleavage and having my balls throb at work.
Re: DP on the way
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:40 pm
by consideringthecut (imported)
I got a referral to a second urologist today, who was very open to helping me lower my sex drive. He initially suggested an oral anti-prostate cancer drug (similar to Flutamide, although that wasn't it) which he said I could take as needed. I didn't really know this was an option, however I don't know that I would last the one to two days it would take for the drugs to kick in in a libido emergency.

He mentioned there would be side effects in either case. After some consideration, I said I would like to pursue DP. He's investigating dosages with a pharmacist, and I have a baseline bone density scan on the 16th. I'll go see him again right after the scan.
I also spoke with my wife about using DP earlier in the week. She's open to it, primarily from the reduced desire for porn or considering other women angle. She's okay with the amount of sex that we have, but I am guessing it will drop to about 1/2 to 1/4 if I'm not initiating. We shall see. More in a couple of weeks.
Re: DP on the way
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:27 am
by Kangan (imported)
consideringthecut (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:40 pm
I got a referral to a second urologist today, who was very open to helping me lower my sex drive. He initially suggested an oral anti-prostate cancer drug (similar to Flutamide, although that wasn't it) which he said I could take as needed. I didn't really know this was an option, however I don't know that I would last the one to two days it would take for the drugs to kick in in a libido emergency.

He mentioned there would be side effects in either case. After some consideration, I said I would like to pursue DP. He's investigating dosages with a pharmacist, and I have a baseline bone density scan on the 16th. I'll go see him again right after the scan.
I also spoke with my wife about using DP earlier in the week. She's open to it, primarily from the reduced desire for porn or considering other women angle. She's okay with the amount of sex that we have, but I am guessing it will drop to about 1/2 to 1/4 if I'm not initiating. We shall see. More in a couple of weeks.
I don't favor drugs so I did it with a woodworking clamp. Now I have no unwanted urges. I still like sex, but the urgency is gone.
Re: DP on the way
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:04 pm
by mrt (imported)
consideringthecut (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:40 pm
I got a referral to a second urologist today, who was very open to helping me lower my sex drive. He initially suggested an oral anti-prostate cancer drug (similar to Flutamide, although that wasn't it) which he said I could take as needed. I didn't really know this was an option, however I don't know that I would last the one to two days it would take for the drugs to kick in in a libido emergency.

He mentioned there would be side effects in either case. After some consideration, I said I would like to pursue DP. He's investigating dosages with a pharmacist, and I have a baseline bone density scan on the 16th. I'll go see him again right after the scan.
I also spoke with my wife about using DP earlier in the week. She's open to it, primarily from the reduced desire for porn or considering other women angle. She's okay with the amount of sex that we have, but I am guessing it will drop to about 1/2 to 1/4 if I'm not initiating. We shall see. More in a couple of weeks.
I'm happy your working this out with Doctors and not doing it yourself. This is the better way because I think you will stay healthy. What good does it do to reduce the urges you hate if you blow out your liver?
I want to echo what Hairless said about looking at all the other options before you seek castration by depo. Eunuch levels of hormones will squelch your sex drive but there maybe other things that change that you (and your wife) will not enjoy so be sure to take it easy with this stuff because if it puts you in a bad place it takes a long time to return to normal. Anxiety, depression, mood issues etc.
Have you thought of doing away with access to porn? Have you considered talking again to the mental health expert and perhaps entering therapy with your wife participating?
When I went from low to normal hormone levels I experienced that "puberty" level of interest in sex. And it was not good but I've been through puberty once before so I was able to put a throttle on my urges. :-\ Perhaps with practice and more attention from your wife (And your focusing your urges on her) you can solve your problem without regular depo injections?
Re: DP on the way
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:40 am
by consideringthecut (imported)
As I mentioned in other threads, I began DP last night.
I went to see the second urologist again yesterday, he still had a preference toward the oral androgen-blocker route, but was very willing to do DP instead, given his lack of experience with otherwise-healthy men. He still didn't have a recommended dose from the pharmacist, but as it is going to be a multiple of 150mg, I went ahead and gave myself a single shot last night. I can always add another if the pharmacist feels a stronger dose is adviseable.
One other thing that has come up since the last visit on 8/2/07 is that my insurance company refused the initial visit with my GP and all the lab work that she ordered, to the tune of $720. Apparently they don't pay for "sexual" anything. I don't know if I'm going to ask the doctor about re-coding it. I probably won't and will go ahead and pay it. I'm concerned that other visits will similarly be refused. That being the case, I did not have the bone scan yesterday. The average cost is $900.
I need to correct an earlier statement. I said that my lab results showed high testosterone. In reality, they showed abnormally high levels of LH, which the first urologist whom I saw was very curious about. He actually referred me to a very busy endocrinologist who can't see me until mid-September, but I'm going to cancel that appointment, as my blood chemistry will be very different (I hope) by the time that date rolls around.
Re: DP on the way
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:57 am
by mrt (imported)
I've been PMing another friend with a similar problem to yours. He has an issue with high (Insane high) testosterone and is taking a drug to supress all hormone production and then taking HRT to get his Testosterone into a normal healthy level. Your super high LH sounds scary. Have you been checked for tumors that might be causing high levels?
Good luck!
consideringthecut (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:40 am
As I mentioned in other threads, I began DP last night.
I went to see the second urologist again yesterday, he still had a preference toward the oral androgen-blocker route, but was very willing to do DP instead, given his lack of experience with otherwise-healthy men. He still didn't have a recommended dose from the pharmacist, but as it is going to be a multiple of 150mg, I went ahead and gave myself a single shot last night. I can always add another if the pharmacist feels a stronger dose is adviseable.
One other thing that has come up since the last visit on 8/2/07 is that my insurance company refused the initial visit with my GP and all the lab work that she ordered, to the tune of $720. Apparently they don't pay for "sexual" anything. I don't know if I'm going to ask the doctor about re-coding it. I probably won't and will go ahead and pay it. I'm concerned that other visits will similarly be refused. That being the case, I did not have the bone scan yesterday. The average cost is $900.
I need to correct an earlier statement. I said that my lab results showed high testosterone. In reality, they showed abnormally high levels of LH, which the first urologist whom I saw was very curious about. He actually referred me to a very busy endocrinologist who can't see me until mid-September, but I'm going to cancel that appointment, as my blood chemistry will be very different (I hope) by the time that date rolls around.
Re: DP on the way
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:06 am
by ramses (imported)
Isn't high LH with normal or low T a sign of primary testicular failure?
Re: DP on the way
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:49 am
by DonFL (imported)
My insurance also coded me badly and a call set it straight. You have abnormal LH, they should code it under hormone/endo issues not ED or sexual issues. You will be thankful to get it coded correctly, the therapy can get really expensive real quick....
Re: DP on the way
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:43 pm
by consideringthecut (imported)
DonFL (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:49 am
My insurance also coded me badly and a call set it straight. You have abnormal LH, they should code it under hormone/endo issues not ED or sexual issues. You will be thankful to get it coded correctly, the therapy can get really expensive real quick....

to Mr. T, Ramses, & Mismatched. I'll give the insurance company a call and keep my appointment with the endocrinologist.
Also my urologist called this afternoon and suggested 150mg every two weeks and see him back in six weeks. I'm ambivalent about whether to go ahead on the two week regimen or wait until the third week. I guess I've got a little time to think, pray, and discuss with him if needed.