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Re: rest in peace??

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:18 pm
by Slammr (imported)
truly committed (imported) wrote: Wed May 30, 2007 7:17 am slammr, my friend who was abused by her daddy, would u like to check if there are any naked pics of her on the net? I mean everything should be accesible right? if you die and end up on a slab being dissected, its ok for them to take pics and post them on the net? its ok to take pics of people you hate and post them on the net or who *you* think are unnatractive? its ok to write about anyone and say anything,.

no thats the fucking trouble with the internet.

---[ EDITED TO REMOVE PERSONAL RECRIMINATION]--- What happened to people having feelings and caring?

Im so angry right now..and upset that people can think this way.

If I'm dead, it doesn't much matter to me what anyone does with my dead body or with pictures of it, does it? Unless there's Internet access from where I'll be, I'll never see them, will I?

I have a picture of my mother in her casket. I wouldn't post it on the Internet, but I wouldn't freak out, if I came across it somewhere. As Wolverine says, that picture of River Phoenix was on findadeath.com. Well, what would you expect if you went to that site? No one made him or anyone else here click on that link. Did you see the picture?

And, I'm not sure how to answer the rest of your post. It doesn't make much sense, and is not relevant to anything -- and I didn't even see the part that was deleted.

Re: rest in peace??

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:08 pm
by truly committed (imported)
Ive seen your site, so it doesnt surprise me you have these views.

I guess i have nothing else to say, but i would be deeply upset if anyone did anything to hurt me or people i love when only a body remains...

i guess we are just differnt, and what i said was aimed at me not anyone else..the part that was deleted.

im still so angry with you.i better not say what i want 2 !

Re: rest in peace??

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:10 pm
by truly committed (imported)
it wasnt a personal attack, i meant for me-id rather be able to go to a hospital and get a lethal injection than be in this world with cruel people!

for the record..

Re: rest in peace??

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:15 pm
by A-1 (imported)
truly committed (imported) wrote: Wed May 30, 2007 3:10 pm it wasnt a personal attack, i meant for me-id rather be able to go to a hospital and get a lethal injection than be in this world with cruel people!

for the record..

Don't get 'carried away'.

If you do that it won't help matters any. Besides that, somebody may take a picture of your carcass and post it on the Internet and then I might see it and get as pissed off as Wolverine...

Slammr, you know, I know of a guy who had a telephone put in his mausoleum in case he woke up after he died.

Check it out... (http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives ... suppo.html)

Martin Sheets was a wealthy businessman who lived in Terra Haute, Indiana in the early 1900’s. One of his greatest fears was that of a premature burial. He often dreamt of being awake, but unable to move, at the moment the doctor pronounced him dead and then regaining consciousness while trapped in a coffin below the ground. Sheets decided to fight his fears by investing some of his resources in the prevention of his being buried alive.

First of all, he had a casket custom-designed with latches fitted on the inside. In this way, should he be placed inside prematurely, he would be able to open the coffin and escape. He also began construction on a mausoleum so that when he died, or was thought to have died, he would not be imprisoned under six feet of dirt. The mausoleum was well built and attractive but Sheets realized that even if he did manage to escape from his casket, he would still be trapped inside of a stone prison.

He came up with another clever idea. He installed a telephone inside of the tomb with a direct line to the main office of the cemetery. In this way, he could summon help by simply lifting the receiver. The line was fitted with an automatic indicator light so that even if no words were spoken, the light would come on in the office and help would soon be on the way.

Death came for Martin Sheets in 1910 and he was entombed in the mausoleum. I would imagine that for several days afterward, cemetery staff workers kept a close eye on the telephone indicator light in the office. After more time passed though, it was probably forgotten. Years went by and the telephone system in the area changed. Eventually, the direct line to the cemetery office was removed but thanks to very specific instructions in Sheets’ will, and the money to pay for it, the telephone in the mausoleum remained connected and active.

A number of years later, Sheets’ widow also passed away. She was discovered one day lying on her bed with the telephone clutched in her hand. In fact, she held the receiver so tightly that it had to be pried from her fingers. It was soon learned that she had experienced a severe stroke and family members assumed that she had been trying to call an ambulance when she finally died. A service was held and after a quiet memorial service, she was taken to the family mausoleum, where she would be interred next to her husband.

When cemetery workers entered the mausoleum, they received the shock of their lives. Nothing there was disturbed, they saw, except for one, very chilling item. Martin Sheets’ telephone, locked away for all of these years, was hanging from the wall.... its receiver inexplicably off the hook!

🙋

Of course, you could have a video camera placed in your casket these days and hooked up to the Internet so that we could watch your dead body decay over the years after you die...I know that it might not bother you, and maybe you could make some sort of statement with that action...

...what kind of statement it might be, I don't know...🙇 😵‍💫

...however, perhaps you just might be able to disgust poor old 'truly committed' more in death than you could when you were alive.

...but I doubt it...😄

:shakemitk

Re: rest in peace??

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:26 pm
by Slammr (imported)
A-1

Actually, I was thinking that when it came my time I would go up into the hills somewhere, away from everyone, die and let the animals eat my body. At least, some creature would get some use out of it. Isn't that what some Native Americans did? Makes more sense than embalming and funerals.

And you really have to feel for poor old 'truly committed' having to exist in a world with someone as cruel as I am. After all, I didn't object to a photo of a dead person being posted on the Internet. That's worse than genocide in Darfur, the war in Iraq, sectarian killing, and children starving to death. I can understand why he wants to go for a lethal injection. Shall I call him a cab? Or does "truly committed" imply more than I first thought. Maybe he should be...

Re: rest in peace??

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:32 pm
by kristoff
wolverine1 (imported) wrote: Wed May 30, 2007 6:45 am hey man... miaow! believe me when I say that I definitely DON'T need to go out looking for things to depress me or make me miserable - I work as a nurse looking after the elderly... a lot of my patients are terminal so breaking the news to families that their loved has died is still hard to to and can be depressing enough on it's own, without anything else to help it along! and before anyone says it - I DO love my job, but I wouldn't be human if I said that it never affected me ; the one thing I don't do is ever let is show to my patients/their relatives as that would be completely unprofessional and uncaring.

which brings me back to my original point - no one will ever convince me that exploiting someone who's dead is in any way acceptable. Just to highlight my original comment - I wanted a decent pic of River, right? so go to google and type in 'River Phoenix' under an image search and then you'll see that the 10th pic is from a site called 'findadeath.com'!?!

That is just F*cking twisted and not something I ever wanted to see in any way/shape/form! The reason for the post was to air my views which, fair enough, not everybody will agree with but in no way will I ever be convinced that everything should be accessible to everyone - there should be at least some boundaries of decency left...

I know what yer saying slammr about 'look hard enough and ye shall find', but I wasn't looking for that and I think we're just gonna haveta agree to disagree on this subject

Your standards of decency and appropriateness are yours, and are just fine for you. But please do not presume that they are fine for me - they probably are not. I like the internet making seemingly everything available; you have the option of discretion in choosing what to look at. Perhaps you inadvertenly found something you did not wish to see - oh well. That is what the back button is for, among other things. As I walked in the park, I spotted a dog turd; it offended my standards, and the owner should have picked it up. But I chose not to step in it.

Re: rest in peace??

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:14 pm
by wolverine1 (imported)
Slammr (imported) wrote: Wed May 30, 2007 12:18 pm As Wolverine says, that picture of River Phoenix was on findadeath.com. Well, what would you expect if you went to that site? No one made him or anyone else here click on that link. Did you see the picture?

Slammr, I tried saying in my previous post that we'll have to agree to differ - I came here to make friends not enemies - believe me I have enough of the latter to last a lifetime, but please check yer facts first before commenting about me or what I supposedly said... I didn't click a link to the site - I carried out a basic image search on google and that particular image link was one that came up amongst many others!! I have all the appropriate security settings on my computer to avoid stuff like that, but it appeared with all the other images nonetheless... and just for the record? I have not / nor ever wish to viewing anything on a site like that. period.

I'm not gonna keep harping on about my beliefs, but as i've already stated before in other posts - everyone (including me) is entitled to their own views whether or not anyone else agrees with them! I'm not trying to say that anyone is wrong for disagreeing with me, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them either! so to re-iterate my previous post: we'll have to agree to differ.

Re: rest in peace??

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:53 am
by truly committed (imported)
and yeh slammr i have been commiitted ;)

twice!

hah!

..ok i tend to maybe get a little angry sometimes, but its filled with sadness...

i dunno...i dont get people, i dont get kristoffs views either..why should everything be available? some people might get off on raping a women, and may quite like to see that..but it doesnt mean it should be online-does it?

Re: rest in peace??

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:48 am
by Paolo
Just for the record, you don't have to go to findadeath.com.

Just run the Google image search - the pic in question came up at #12 for me in the thumbnails view mode.

Also, for the record - I've printed images and processed video that would literally make your balls climb up and hide behind your tonsils.

I won't go into detail on it here, though. This was from "back in the day" before digital photo, and when most police crime labs didn't have their own film photo labs on site and brought it to us for secure processing.

The only thing I have to say to those who get upset over things like the idea of seeing JFK with his head blown off, or Diana being pulled out of the car, or even River Phoenix in his coffin - there are a LOT more atrocious things out there in life, and like it or not, you might run across them someday.

Get a grip, deal with it, and move on ... otherwise it consumes you.

Re: rest in peace??

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:11 am
by Slammr (imported)
This is a Freedom of Speech issue. Which of you are we going to trust to decide what will and will not be allowed on the Internet? Are we going to leave it to the government, to the religious authorities, or to whom? Freedom of Speech out weighs all other consideration. As Kristoff said, no one forces you to go there. Certainly there's some shit on the Internet, but no one forces you to step in it. t.c. is off base with his examples. I don't know of any naked pictures of rape victims being posted. Until he can point out some to us, his examples are meaningless. Images are removed from sites all the time, either because someone running the site thinks they're inappropriate or thinks they violate copyright restrictions. As you can see on this thread, censorship occurs here; but that's permissible because it's specific to this site. The moderators have the right to decide what is posted here. They do not, however, have the right to decide what's posted to the Internet as a whole. I don't think anyone should, least of all Wolverine or truly committed. If you start by censoring something like this image of River Phoenix, where do you stop? Freedom of Speech, freedom of access, on the Interntet out weighs all other considerations.