This scrotal inversion is interesting to me. I've thought about having it done. I'm not sure I'd really want to do it, or if it's ever actually done, but I like the look of a penis and a vulva together. I guess it would be something like a vulva with a very large clitoris, similar to this (http://www.hermanshermit.com/hermaphro3.jpg), a look I also like.

Hey There,

I've been lurking around this board for years, but have never posted.

I think the reason for my shadowy hovering is that I feel I'm in the margin of an already marginal sexuality. I'm gay -- not TG. And in essence, I would not consider myself a eunuch.

However, Polarthong has articulated what I would deem to be my deepest, and probably most private desire: to remain a gay man, but to have a vagina. (How f**'d up is that? I get to be completely ostracized by nearly everyone!!). I do not desire to be a woman or to present as a woman, but in general, I do love the idea of masculinity with a touch of femininity.

I am a masculine guy, and intend to remain so. On the other hand, nothing would make me happier than to be married to a husband, and truly be his gay "wife" sexually. So, am I a Freudian basket case or what? Is this merely an extreme fetish or something existential? I really don't know.

I've heard the term "genderfuck" and kind of like it because I often feel that nature has genderfucked me -- not only by dropping me right in the middle of gender identities, but also sexualities. (A gay guy with a twat? That kind of negates the whole idea of "gay" doesn't it? Heellpp!!!)

Anyway, thanks for Polartong for resurrecting this thread.

I know I'm a freak, but I'm so happy to not be alone in my freaky!!

jdv

That's what we're here for - so you can be freaky amongst freaky friends.

joydivision_27 (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:52 pm However, Polarthong has articulated what I would deem to be my deepest, and probably most private desire: to remain a gay man, but to have a vagina.

An interesting concept. I have always wondered about what it would be like to experience sex as both a woman and a man. (I am not into anal intercourse and I don't think the sensation would be anything like vaginal intercourse.)

I am not sure that you could have both a true penis and a vagina at the same time, however, due to anatomical considerations.

I dunno whether it's a fetish thing or what, but it's something I really want.

Thanks for the replies!!

I'm happy that there are other "freaks" out there who do not conform to conventional gender norms.

Who knows, maybe WE are the blessed ones? The ones who can perceive from either side of the 'great divide.' The ones not limited to a single sexual vantage point?

I dunno .....

Suffice it to say, I've been confused forever. As a young lad, I was obsessed with my penis, but never actually wanted to have one. I would often tuck it back to appear smooth, sometimes through an entire school day. But then I would wank like hell when I got home. The very idea of not having a penis would excite .... ummmm .... my penis.

wtf?

This is the weird thing -- I didn't want a penis. Still don't. Would prefer a vagina. But I like being a guy, and do not want to be a girl.

I can sometimes present a bit femme if I really want to (nailpolish, earrings -- y'know, a bit goth), but I am generally a masculine guy.

In addition, I am not interested in having breasts, or being a woman.

Yet, my desire is to be a FEMALE man --

A man who lives as a man, but functions sexually as a female -- with another man.

This is what I can't wrap my head around.

No pun intended -- I'm talking about the above-the-shoulder head, not the below-the-waist one

Polarthong has expressed my exact fantasy.

And this is what I wonder about -- is it just a fantasy? Is it just a fetish?

It is definitely a deep desire that is constantly present.

But what am I? What would I be?

There is no place for this idea in the TG world.

The Eunuch community seems much more embracing (and I THANK you!!).

But I am technically not a Eunuch because what I am interested in is a sex-change below the waist. Not a removal of sexual capacity.

Sex is very important to me -- I would just prefer to experience it differently. I've had straight sex (ick!). Lots of gay sex (infinitely more appealing). But there is something missing. Anal sex is okay enough. But a vagina would truly allow me to have the same intensity of sexual experience as my partner -- at the same time.

Oh boy ....

If such surgery were possible, I think I would actualy do it.

Any ideas for a genderfucked, but inherently nice soul?

Thank you for reading if you've made it this far.

jdv

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/menwantingvaginas/

joydivision_27 (imported) wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:37 pm There is no place for this idea in the TG world.

The Eunuch community seems much more embracing (and I THANK you!!).

But I am technically not a Eunuch because what I am interested in is a sex-change below the waist. Not a removal of sexual capacity.

Exactly. But people do still pigeon hole people into 'gay' 'straight' 'tg' 'male' and 'female' etc. But life's not that simple.

I want to be a man with a vagina.

People always pigeon hole. Its easier for many to deal with issues without or not wanting to give any thought to the issue or reason for them thinking of something in a particular way. For people, not to pigeon hole could be quite frightening for most. A guy for me, who looks and acts as a guy but with different sexual parts could be a hugh turn-on for lots of people out there. But WTF. You should feel comfortable with what you want and so what other people think.

I want vaginoplasty and srs