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Re: Considering Science Fiction

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:45 am
by Dave (imported)
Kortpeel (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:09 am Actually it wasn't the corporation it was just the security guys who were aggressive and warlike. Looked to me like they were all ex-army

The scientists and production workers were just regular guys.

And senior management were simply concerned for the welfare of the stockholders, all those little people out there that had invested their life saving in the company. The top people just wanted to do right by them.

And it wasn't as though the locals were interested in the unobtanium.

Really it was a remake of How the West Was Won but with a different outcome.

Did you intend to write satire this hysterically funny? I don't mean that in any insulting way but I'm laughing so hard at this and wondering if you realize how DR STRANGELOVE this sounds...

Re: Considering Science Fiction

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:16 am
by Riverwind (imported)
Dave (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:45 am Did you intend to write satire this hysterically funny? I don't mean that in any insulting way but I'm laughing so hard at this and wondering if you realize how DR STRANGELOVE this sounds...

I have seen Avatar twice and own a copy and I was trying to wrap my brain around that post as well, Dr Strangelove like is right on. ROTFLMAO

Thanks Dave.

River

Re: Considering Science Fiction

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:12 pm
by moi621 (imported)
Of Heinlein -

Moi always considered him a bit on the militarist side yet he was not on the side of the corporations as opposed to the free individual who fought for their personal liberties.

"The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" and "Stranger . ." come to mind as anti-corporation books.

"Moon . ." as many of his other books required individuals to put their lives on the line for their liberties.

Now as I watch HD "Star Ship Troopers" for the Xth (where X is greater then ten) time something new was noticed.

NEW.

An early soldier the bugs caught alive was the frightened, fearful lady soldier.

When they captured the "Brain Bug" that sucked brains as to assimilate thoughts, the telepath reported, "It is afraid".

A fortuitous turn of events that the brain bug sucked the brains out of a frightened soldier, and experienced / learned - to be afraid.

Moi

Can anyone think of a Pro-Corporation Sci-Fi story?

Re: Considering Science Fiction

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:44 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
Heinlein was a grad of Annapolis and served in the Navy until he was discharged because of TB. He wrote about things that would become reality. Water beds, Waldos. and his the best way to describe his feelings on life was he book Starship Troopers a coming-of-age story about duty, citizenship, and the role of the military in society.

So yes he was pro military, I also approve of his take on citizenship. Stranger in a strange land was about religion, he made fun of it.

River

Moon was not so much about anti corp but about human rights, freedom.

River

Re: Considering Science Fiction

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:34 pm
by Dave (imported)
Heinlein...
Riverwind (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:44 pm Stranger in a strange land was about religion, he made fun of it.

...

When I was in High School I had to do a series of book reports and STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND was one of the books.

I went to a high school taught by Nuns and they kinda freaked out at Heinlein.

Re: Considering Science Fiction

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:47 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
I can just imagine 😄 that, this, gets funner the more I think about it. Needs Salt.

River

Re: Considering Science Fiction

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:01 am
by moi621 (imported)
Now it has been many years since i read, "Stranger"'

I seen to remember the smell and sight of Martians getting - reprogrammed, to love all sentient beings.

Wasn't he a corperate / politico guy?

Did i forget something? Much?

Moi

Re: Considering Science Fiction

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:40 am
by Riverwind (imported)
I remember when they killed him he was saying "forgive them for they know not what they do", he went to heaven to take over and his followers cooking him up for dinner, he needed salt.

River

Re: Considering Science Fiction

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:36 pm
by moi621 (imported)
V returns, 1/4/11.

Something to look forward to after the Holiday Survival Season.

What can I say?

I am in love with Anna!

"She's cold, she's heartless, she's ... Anna! The queen bee alien on 'V,' "

and a babe too.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/05/18/moren ... -soldiers/

Anna 🐫 Moi dreams

💡 why indeed would Moi's fantasies be about, penectomy 🙄

Re: Considering Science Fiction

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:14 pm
by Buzz1221 (imported)
I'm coming-in rather late to this discussion, but I wonder if folks on this archive have discussed "A Feast Unknown" by Philip Jose Farmer. Castration plays a large role in the conclusion of this novel. Has it been discussed here? Have others read it and are there thoughts about it?

I read it years ago, but still have my copy handy and am always interested in others thoughts about a book by such a well-known Sci-Fi author.