Sorry Chile, I'm Disaster Weary.

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Oh there is pretty terrifying stuff.

It is like shit. It happens. And you can't bandaid all the horrible events in the world.

And some bandaids have unforeseen consequences.

Example, vaccination programs in Africa created famine. Think about it.

Don't make me draw you a picture.

So like the disease of the month, we have the disaster of our attention.

I guess everything is okay now in Darfar, right?

And then there are the problems of the "administrative costs" of your donated dollar.

I would rather give money to homeless pan handlers.

No administrative costs. Or support the economies of hurting countries as I can, Haitian Barbancort Rum and Chilian Salmon.

Moi the Pragmatic Populist

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moi621 (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:48 pm Oh there is pretty terrifying stuff.

It is like shit. It happens. And you can't bandaid all the horrible events in the world.

And some bandaids have unforeseen consequences.

Example, vaccination programs in Africa created famine. Think about it.

Don't make me draw you a picture.

So like the disease of the month, we have the disaster of our attention.

I guess everything is okay now in Darfar, right?

And then there are the problems of the "administrative costs" of your donated dollar.

I would rather give money to homeless pan handlers.

No administrative costs. Or support the economies of hurting countries as I can, Haitian Barbancort Rum and Chilian Salmon.

Moi the Pragmatic Populist

Disaster weary

I think I see why your disaster weary Moi, after all its rained twice where you are in the last couple weeks. OMG.

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Riverwind (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:21 pm I think I see why your disaster weary Moi, after all its rained twice where you are in the last couple weeks. OMG.

River

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Riverwind (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:16 am I stand corrected, as I was watching TV they said it was the most powerful in history but today I herd it was like the 7th or 8th. Thanks

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From personal experience anything above 6 is severe if you live near the epicenter.
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I am with you, 7.0 is something to avoid.

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moi621 (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:48 pm And some bandaids have unforeseen consequences.

Example, vaccination programs in Africa created famine. Think about it.

Don't make me draw you a picture.



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Interesting theory, but it is contradicted by the facts. Even in sub Saharan and the Horn of Africa where there is famine, it is not caused by Malthusian pressure of rising population meeting declining food production, but by civic chaos, preventing the distribution of food. I have an employee who has worked for me off and on for ten years who is from Zanzibar (an island province of Tanzania) On his last trip back, he was driving a truck trying to deliver UN food assistance to famine struck regions of Somalia, when they were kidnapped and beaten by the troops of Somali warlords who seized the food. The troops asked him if he were Moslem, and being told he was, they only beat him "a little" If vaccination caused famine you would expect a positive correlation between vaccination rates and the incidence of famine, but the correlation is in fact negative. The same breakdowns of society that lead to famine also prevent the delivery of medical care.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... ?page=full

"Africa Is Stuck in a Malthusian Trap."

Hardly. Malthus's world was one of stagnant economies where population growth was cut short by declining health, famine, or war. Thanks to the spread of technologies and new ideas, African economies are expanding fast and population growth has been accompanied by better health.

The continent of Africa has seen output expand 6½ times between 1950 and 2001. Of course, the population has grown nearly fourfold, so GDP per capita has only increased 67 percent. But that's hardly stagnation. Indeed, only one country in the region (the Democratic Republic of the Congo) has seen GDP growth rates average below 0.5 percent up to this year -- the run-of-the-mill growth rate when Malthus was writing in early 19th-century Britain. And though there have been all too many humanitarian disasters in the region, the great majority of Africa's population has been unaffected. The percentage of Africans south of the Sahara who died in wars each year over the last third of the 20th century was about a hundredth of a percent. The average percentage affected by famine over the last 15 years was less than three tenths of a percent. Africa has seen child mortality fall from 26.5 to 15 percent since 1960 and life expectancy increase by 10 years."

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So I am putzing away in a camp with a generator in the Chilean mountains. Far enough away that it did not affect us much. With the generator we get to see several Chilean channels on DirecTV. It has been like 9-11 in the US. All day coverage. The damage is just incredible. You see multi-story buildings still standing, but around the base is a ring where the concrete shattered and fell away and the building looks like it is being held up by twisted rebar. It sure looks to me like the earth accelerated a hell of a lot faster than the buildings did. Somewhere I picked up that the architects plan for a 7.0 quake. God knows how you protect yourself from an 8.8 quake except panty liners to keep from soiling your panties. What was really astounding was the damage from tsunamis. Hundreds of kilometers of absolute total destruction. The really sad part now are the interviews. From 10 to 80, male and female, all begin talking and then falter and break down in tears. In a few minutes they lost everything they had in life.
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Is this going to be the year of the earth quake? So far: Haiti, Chile & Turkey.
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Mac (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:19 pm Is this going to be the year of the earth quake? So far: Haiti, Chile & Turkey.

Are you disaster weary yet?

More tsunamis?

Mud slides?

How about some record snow fall?

Moi

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