S. Califo-nia Needs Rain

[IbPervert (imported)]

Current predictions are that San Diego will get between 5 to 6 inches of rain this week! Californians always forget to slow down in the rain. so many accidents will happen this week. We will have usual mudslides, accidents, idiots trying to cross streams that are to high that sort of stuff.

On the good news when these four storms are done with us they are going after the rest of the country! Perhaps a few inchs of snow across the country me thinks...

[moi621 (imported)]

You don't need rain in SoCal, we need it in NorCal... you know, that place where southern California sticks their straw and sucks us dry, and since SoCal has the population, just comes in and takes our stuff and tells us to suck it?

Yup, we need rain in NorCal, because if we don't get it here, you'll soon have to resort to sweeping your sidewalks instead of spraying them down.

Right.

The problem is, Northern Califo-nia controls the Democrat Party of Califo-nia.

A less liberal Democrat candidate has a harder time winning the primaries.

So, "gift to the Republican party" - unless they drop the ball with a right wing ideologue.

And where in Califo-nia are Feinstein and Boxer from, hhhmmmm?

And Pelosi's district is up there too.

Hard to figure out how the ineffectual in Southern California steal your water.

Maybe corruption and graft as is more common among established Northern Califo-nia politicos?

We lack those old time power house families like the Aliotos.

Meanwhile it was a stormy Monday. Winds and a couple inches of rain. Yea!

For you non-Califo-nians, we have had a series of years with hardly a 3" total rainfall all year.

More to come. Rain and rain news I mean.

Moi

remember it is all about the snow pack, not the liquid

[gareth19 (imported)]

You don't need rain in SoCal, we need it in NorCal... you know, that place where southern California sticks their straw and sucks us dry, and since SoCal has the population, just comes in and takes our stuff and tells us to suck it?

Yup, we need rain in NorCal, because if we don't get it here, you'll soon have to resort to sweeping your sidewalks instead of spraying them down.

I think in the old days people hosed down sidewalks, but I have never seen anyone do it that way. That's just a myth.

[Riverwind (imported)]

Yes, I totally understand. This last summer they were talking about the drought up here, one lake went dry and the rain fall was off 4 inches or some such.

This is the news from the northern mid west, land of 25,000 lakes (Wisconsin and Minnesota) all fresh water of course, that does not count the rivers, like the St Croix or that other one called the Mississippi, and a couple of our lakes are bigger then most, Michigan and Superior. YES we need rain too, and snow, oh yes, we have snow of course its all yellow now, (dogs).

River

[Rusty Dai (imported)]

I received word from relatives in California that it is raining there 01/18/10. The rain fall is predicted to be somewhere between 4 and 8 inches for this storm.

[Losethem (imported)]

Right.

The problem is, Northern Califo-nia controls the Democrat Party of Califo-nia.

A less liberal Democrat candidate has a harder time winning the primaries.

So, "gift to the Republican party" - unless they drop the ball with a right wing ideologue.

And where in Califo-nia are Feinstein and Boxer from, hhhmmmm?

And Pelosi's district is up there too.

Hard to figure out how the ineffectual in Southern California steal your water.

Maybe corruption and graft as is more common among established Northern Califo-nia politicos?

We lack those old time power house families like the Aliotos.

Meanwhile it was a stormy Monday. Winds and a couple inches of rain. Yea!

For you non-Califo-nians, we have had a series of years with hardly a 3" total rainfall all year.

More to come. Rain and rain news I mean.

Moi

remember it is all about the snow pack, not the liquid

My post may have been political, but it was far from partisan. I made note that you have a huge city in the south dictating where the water that falls in the north is going to go. I just happen to live where the water is, so I don't need a lecture about the Sierra Nevada and it's snowpack because I've spent over half my life there. Regardless of if it is rain or snow, the moisture needs to fall in the north half of the state, not the south. So Southern California needs rain like a fish needs a bicycle, at least as far as your tap water is concerned.

As for the political part - it's the DemocratIC party, not Democrat party. Calling it the latter makes a person sound uneducated. It also sounds like someone doesn't know about the politics of California all that well. Don't you know that the Democrats are generally in the cities and that the Republicans are generally in the country in California? At least as far as their strongholds go.

Furthermore, there seems to be some misconception to how the US congress is structured - Feinstein and Boxer are from the north and represent the entire state in the Senate. The Senate seats are statewide offices, as they are in every state. House districts are that, smaller geographies with roughly 600-700,000 people represented by one person. Nancy Pelosi is one of those, who just happens to have been selected by a majority of her peers in the House of representatives to be the speaker. She stands for election in a single district just as republicans like Dennis Hastert and Newt Gingrich did.

Mods, please feel free to spin the political portion of this entry into the political board if you wish.

--LT

[moi621 (imported)]

Yes, I totally understand. This last summer they were talking about the drought up here, one lake went dry and the rain fall was off 4 inches or some such.

This is the news from the northern mid west, land of 25,000 lakes (Wisconsin and Minnesota) all fresh water of course, that does not count the rivers, like the St Croix or that other one called the Mississippi, and a couple of our lakes are bigger then most, Michigan and Superior. YES we need rain too, and snow, oh yes, we have snow of course its all yellow now, (dogs).

River

River, we have erected a storm sign pointing the way to Wisconsin.

One is on the way, at least two more to follow.

Let Moi know when you have had enough.

[Riverwind (imported)]

The difference is we expect it you guys wish for it.

River

[Riverwind (imported)]

My post may have been political, but it was far from partisan. I made note that you have a huge city in the south dictating where the water that falls in the north is going to go. I just happen to live where the water is, so I don't need a lecture about the Sierra Nevada and it's snowpack because I've spent over half my life there. Regardless of if it is rain or snow, the moisture needs to fall in the north half of the state, not the south. So Southern California needs rain like a fish needs a bicycle, at least as far as your tap water is concerned.

As for the political part - it's the DemocratIC party, not Democrat party. Calling it the latter makes a person sound uneducated. It also sounds like someone doesn't know about the politics of California all that well. Don't you know that the Democrats are generally in the cities and that the Republicans are generally in the country in California? At least as far as their strongholds go.

Furthermore, there seems to be some misconception to how the US congress is structured - Feinstein and Boxer are from the north and represent the entire state in the Senate. The Senate seats are statewide offices, as they are in every state. House districts are that, smaller geographies with roughly 600-700,000 people represented by one person. Nancy Pelosi is one of those, who just happens to have been selected by a majority of her peers in the House of representatives to be the speaker. She stands for election in a single district just as republicans like Dennis Hastert and Newt Gingrich did.

Mods, please feel free to spin the political portion of this entry into the political board if you wish.

--LT

Not totally true, Orange county is Republican most likely the most republican district in the country and it has loads of people.

Water and Water rights you must go back a couple generations but it all is key around the Chandlers who owned and ran the LA TIMES.

It is interesting the the state congress has been run by the Democrats for most of my lifetime, yet sense 1850 when California became a state there have only been 3 Democrat governors, all in my lifetime.

Yes it is true that Nancy is from The City, which will only elect liberal Democrats. The same is true for Orange county electing Republicans.

Farm areas tend to be republican but that would be true nation wide. Farmers tend to be conservative by nature, self reliant, don't mind hard work, and for tax breaks for not doing something when it includes them.

River, native of LA, moved to northern Cal at 25, moved to the mid west at 50, I would never move back.

And remember the thought for the day

When you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.

River

[coinflipper_21 (imported)]

The weather patterns of the California coast are quite predictable if you view them in the long term. If you have read "Two Years Before the Mast" (If you haven't, much of it is about whaling and trading on the California coast in the mid 1830s.) , Dana describes California in the drought conditions that we have had in the last several years. In the epilogue, he returns to California twenty years later and marvels at the changes brought on by wet weather. When I commented on this to a friend, an oceanography professor, he told me that my idea that Dana had correctly observed the long term weather pattern on the California coast was correct.

When I first moved to California, in 1951, The winter rains were terrible. There was winter flooding and landslides. (It even snowed on the Hollywood Hills a few times.) This was the pattern through the '50s, then it got drier. for about twenty years. People worried that California was going to run out of water, but the rains returned, the reservoirs filled, the snow pack deepened, and people worried about winter flooding and land slides again. Then it got drier, Now it's getting wet. We've had over two inches of rain in the last 24 hours, where I am, and there is a procession of storms approaching the coast for this entire week. Here we go again.

If experience can be relied upon, it will be like this for the next three to five winters, confounding Weather Service computer models. Then, it will get dry again. The pattern is clear, you just have to be around long enough to see it.