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Hair and Hormones

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:43 am
by Beau Geste (imported)
I remember reading, some time ago, a short article describing how doctors had studied "war eunuchs" who had lost their testes as a result of injuries in World War I. Apparently, this was the first war in which significant numbers of soldiers survived after their organs were shot off or blown off, or had to be removed because of significant damage to them. Anyway, it was mentioned in the article that the individuals who had lost their gonads, typically experienced a change in the distribution of pubic hair. After the testes were gone, the pubic hair had a "delta" distribution, similar to that of an adult woman, rather than the irregularly rounded distribution typical of men.

This raises some interesting questions, if it's an accurate observation, since the shape of the distribution of pubic hair can be measured and quantified, to some extent, while other physical effects of orchiectomy tend to be more difficult to analyze in an objective way (the increase in subcutaneous fat and change in penis size, possibly being exceptions.) One question which would be interesting to investigate, is whether, if there is indeed a change in distribution of pubic hair as the level of hormones in the body changes, that change is the sort of thing which develops gradually--or if some threshhold level is reached, and then the change in distribution occurs rapidly. That wouldn't necessarily indicate that a similar "threshhold level" might apply to other physical and psychological changes which occur with changes in hormone levels, but it would suggest a possibility of that kind. Of course, the development of a "delta shape" probably comes about because of the effects of estrogen, so perhaps someone's natural level of that hormone would affect how and when a change of pubic hair distribution might occur. I'm assuming that someone who is reducing his testosterone level with androcur or other pharmaceuticals, would also experience a change in pubic hair distribution--and, since people do experiment with different hormone levels when they're using drugs of that kind, perhaps someone has noticed how the distribution of pubic hair changes, with different dosages.

There are of course other differences in hair distribution between men and women--there are typical differences in the hairline from the temples to the top of the forehead, between the two sexes. I would guess that, in eunuchs who had their orchiectomies before puberty, the hairline would tend to be similar to that of a woman. But has anyone who had an orchiectomy after puberty, experienced a similar change? The difference is subtle, and perhaps might not be noticed except by comparing before and after photographs. Or perhaps the hairline is something which is set at puberty, and isn't changed by hormonal factors afterward--except that it recedes in most men and some women.

Although it isn't mentioned in the FAQs on this website, I think I've read in some of the posts here, that some people have noticed a difference in the characteristics of individual hair strands on different parts of the body, in the period after orchiectomy. Is this a typical effect of hormonal changes, or does it occur for some and not for others?

I would suspect that other glands besides the testes and ovaries affect the character of hair growth on the body, but I can't remember reading anything about that.

Re: Hair and Hormones

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:30 pm
by Kangan (imported)
This subject facinates me. I'll keep a close watch on my own pubic hair and report any changes.

Re: Hair and Hormones

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:36 pm
by tugon (imported)
I have never had any problem growing hair on my head either pre or post castration so I can not answer to that part of your question. I have always needed to have my hair cut every three weeks.

I would have to say that my pubic hair would be more of a delta shape but it is fairly thin. Any remaining body hair is lighter in color and thinner than before. What remains is where it started to grow during puberty. Kind of a first in last out hair pattern. I used to be very hairy and I do not miss it at all. My back hair is gone which I am pleased about but others back hair never bothered me.

I have never used HRT and I am approaching my tenth anniversary as a eunuch. I still have to shave every other day. I need to clear cut the ear hair routinely. I am the second oldest among siblings and I have the least amount of gray in my hair and I do not know if that is because of lack of hormones. Or clean living? 😄

Some intersting questions and I will be curious with others experiences.

Re: Hair and Hormones

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:58 pm
by twaddler (imported)
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Beau Geste (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:43 am Or perhaps the hairline is something which is set at puberty, and isn't changed by hormonal factors afterward--except that it recedes in most men and some women.
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My hairline is growing into it's pre-pubertal pattern. :)

Re: Hair and Hormones

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:11 pm
by mrt (imported)
Post surgery I've noticed that the hair on my scrotum and to a lesser extent are not as thick or course. Its more like the thin whispy hair on my legs. And I do use HRT so I wonder if its the source? ie nothing coming from the scrotum?

Re: Hair and Hormones

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:26 pm
by JesusA (imported)
The reported experience of prostate cancer eunuchs is that their hair pattern gradually changes.

Over time any hair on their arms and legs disappears, as does all other hair below the neck, other than underarm and pubic hair. The pubic hair pattern gradually shifts toward the delta shape that is typical of females. These changes take some time to occur, and are not abrupt.

Hair above the neck changes but slightly. Beard growth may be slower and any receding hairline (male pattern baldness) may be slightly reversed.

Re: Hair and Hormones

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:08 pm
by Paolo
Jesus can probably attest to the fact that my body hair pattern is fairly odd, and that I've regained quite a bit of scalp hair since my T. levels dropped some years ago. My own patterns in lower body hair growth are of a more feminine pattern now. I just wish it would STOP in any pattern!

Re: Hair and Hormones

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:11 am
by Uncle Flo (imported)
When my T levels dropped to the 50-75 level there was a gradual change to my body hair patterns. The aforementioned feminine pattern in particular. Then I went to testosterone HRT and body hair came back with a vengeance! Since my castration three months ago I've seldom used HRT and then only in minimal quantities, however my body hair pattern has not yet noticably changed. --FLO--

Re: Hair and Hormones

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:18 pm
by sag111 (imported)
Since my surgery my body hair has almost vanished.I dont have any hair on my legs anymore and yes my pubic hair has thinned also so yes for me their is a hair loss with less testosterone.In the winter I have to wear leggins to keep my legs warm its funny how the loss of hair effects us.

Re: Hair and Hormones

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:41 am
by FianceeUvBigGuy (imported)
On second cup of kawfee...so groggy...must have pastry...more pastry...more kawfeeee!

Before I scoot off to the airport I want to add my observations.

Barry The Beloved "Family" Eunuch has a pubic hair pattern similar to mine...definitely "Delta", with none on inner thighs or in the "A" crevice.

In fact, he has NO hair on his empty baggie and pre-snip pix indicate he never had any there to begin with or very little anyway. Says he had not shaved when before some of the pix were snapped. The hair he did have was in the "male pattern", kinda pointed at the top.

One of his eunuch pals, a guy from Houston, has a similar distribution WITH some hair on his purse but, again, none in the perineal area. "Perineal"...I just recently discovered that word...Perineal...Perineal...Neat!

My own fur, when not shaved or waxed...Owwwww!...stops about 2/3ds of the way down my plump little labia. Sometimes I think the Great One decided I needed a >^..^< that looks like a 13-yr old's. Well, no matter, 'cause it's CUTE!

BTW, I've always been fascinated/amused by some of the pubic hair I've seen on some Orientals...almost perfectly straight. When not recently confined and pressed down by panties/BVDs they look like their owner has recently touched a bare electrical wire 'cause it sticks straight out all in all directions.

I'm soooooo bad...Sayonara!

Yoli The Sleepwalking Loony.