Hi to all,

I have been a frequent visitor, and occasional poster for some time now, but have not really opened up about myself here.

For whatever reasons, (and no one seems to be able to determine that), I came into this world with totally non functional testes. They have spent most of my life residing in the inguinal canals, and as a result, I have almost no scrotal tissue. They have never really grown much , nor have they ever functioned in any of the usual ways that testes are supposed to.

They do not grow sperm, they do not produce testosterone, and on fairly recent sonograms they appear to be basically solid tissue, with actually very little blood flow.

I first began a 'T' replacement therapy at age 17. I had no issues about the start of puberty, or any of the things associated with it. I just got a new doctor who thought that the testosterone level of 150 ish , was way too low for a teenager. That was way back in the 70's and in those days the option was self injection. I didn't like the discomfort at the injection site or the highs and lows caused by the weekly cycle. I soon stopped using it.

I want to state at this point that I have always been very sexually motivated, high libido, and no erection issues ever. For almost 20 years I only sporadically used "T" therapy. Not until I hit my 40's did I even think about things like osteoporosis. That inspired me to return to dosing with "T".

I still am on a very low dose, the standard packaging for Androgel, I stretch over a three day period. Any more than that , and I develop what could best be described as "roid rage".

Today , I find that even at 48 , I NEVER have any issues about sexual performance, and although my ejaculate is pretty much clear, there is a definate pleasure in reaching climax. I can also do so multiple times in an evening.

Now to the questions, Am I in some way different? Many posts here are about the desire to be castrated to eliminate erections, and sexual desire. I have been basically castrated all my life, and yet have not ever found myself unable to perform. I almost think that I was even more sexually motivated when I was not using "T" therapy.

According to my personal physician, the average "T" reading in men is between 600 and 900. I tend to stay right around 200.

Am I merely playing a mind over matter game here, and manifesting sexual desire without the necessary chemical drive ?

Because I have such small testes , most that I sleep with think I am castrated anyway, which I basically am, and it seems to be no hindrance to my ability to get company in the bedroom. Some actually find my below the belt appearance to be huge turn on.

What make me different than those who crave castration as a means to slow or eliminate their libido?

I am open to all opinions, and look forward to some input .

Raymar

Raymar,

This board is quite diverse and there are no "right" answers except what is right for you. I, for example, have an ongoing interest in sex, but am not able to obtain an erection. Have not for many years. Hardly anything unusual considering the booming sales of Viagra and other similar drugs. I happen to like not having sexual intercourse as I never particularly cared for it. Others would feel quite different. Then, you have the transgenderal folks who want to have sex in some cases, but playing the opposite gender role.

And, some are here just for the fantasy aspects of the board and that is okay too.

Main thing is that you end up getting what you want from life.

Regards,

If you are pretty happy with the way things are now, why change anything.

raymar, there are probably many here that would love to be in your testicular position. You are not the only one that has been low on T and has felt normal. The first time I had my T checked, I thought I had an over active libido, but my T was 160. This was out of testicles that have make 4 kids. Perhaps your testicles never matured because they never dropped. I'm surprised someone didn't notice that when you were a kid. Mine were discovered and had to be pushed down by my doctor. I have GID, so I had my testicles and scrotum removed trying to make myself more happy with my body. I'm probably similar to you equipment wise, as far as appearance goes any way. I'm also on 300mg depo-T every 3 weeks and probably feel better than ever.

Why shouldn't you b

raymar2020 (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:42 am e different than those who crave castration.

You have basically been castrated your whole life, your already there, but maybe you would rather not be. I guess all you can do is enjoy what you have and laugh at us guys that have or need to spend big bucks to get where you are. I've probably got $8000 + invested in my getting there. I hope this answers some of your questions. We all try to help each other here. Ask what ever you want, someone will have an opinion.

Raymar

I was between low and no T and was very hyper sexual. After going on HRT I calmed down, which goes to show no two people react the same to high or low "t".

Enjoy your gift

Steve Bro Bear

I've got to get my T level checked. I've been mostly hypersexual all my life and now after some self-modification I sense a change occurring. No loss of strength or ambition, but I am not feeling as sexy as I was before. Hum... That's the effect I was wanting... Oh well, so be it.

I do find it interesting that a low-T person would be able to be hypersexual. Shows you that sexuality is not entirely T related.

Thanks for the input. I was expressing a curiosity as to why some men find that without testes they can be totally asexual, while for me and others , it is not an issue at all. I still seek to hear more from others who are willing to share their own experiences.

Raymar

raymar2020 (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:20 am Thanks for the input. I was expressing a curiosity as to why some men find that without testes they can be totally asexual, while for me and others , it is not an issue at all. I still seek to hear more from others who are willing to share their own experiences.

Raymar

200 is 4x what drives a females sex drive. Perhapes the amount in your case is related to what your used to? I'm thinking out loud but if small amounts are all you've ever gotten perhapes your sensitive to Testosterone and don't need the same amount as Joe Six Pack?

I know for example that people who abuse Testosterone and inject massive amounts to look like "Arnold" get spoiled on it and regular amounts don't work for them anymore.

What does your Doctor say about your testes? Are they a health issue?

Mr T,

There have been mixed reactions to the imbedded nature of my testes. At this point , I feel that just taking them out is the best solution. They are fairly regularly an achy situation. Health insurance though deems that it is not necessary. We are battling that decision.

I am regularly monitered, and as such any adverse change would be quickly noted.

As for the levels, I agree, that due to my having never had a high level, it is reasonable that I have a low tolerance for T.

I really do not like how I behave when I have too much.

Another interesting point is that I received private messages from several who are surgical eunuchs. They all said that one reason for castration was to combat their libido. Like me they all said that while it is not the burning desire that it once was, they are ready willing and able to perform when the opportunity presents itself.

All those that responded are using some form of HRT.

There are many on this board who can offer more insight to my questions, please respond.

Raymar

Finding a doctor who can help you can be difficult. Here is (I think) the best suggestion. Anyone in a large teaching hospital. Such as a University Horpital is better suited to handle a case like yours. They have more expereince and the concept of treating you where it would include Orchiectomy won't be so "weird." A lot of doctors are trained to never use orchiectomy as a solution to pain and the reasons are partly law suits. Partly peer pressure. First Do No Harm. So... If your testes are not functional? Thats a point in your favor. Second you need to jump through the hoops. If you have pain (Orchialgia) they are going to want you to make an honest effort to deal with it using non surgical means. And hey! If taking a drug works? Great... If the drug doesn't work or it dopes you up or just scares the hell out of you (As opiates do to me) then you have to state that. I think its of value to go through the steps and find out what else can be done. If nothing works? You can explore surgery and there are several things you can do. One is simply severing the nerves to your testes. If your goal is pure pain relief this often works. If you have potential cancer worries? It might be better to seek removal.

HRT is another topic but this is a thing that really is different for every man. I know a guy who has levels like yours and feels perfectly fine. He tried to dial up to "healthy" levels and it didn't improve his life. In face he claimed it didn't do anything! Me? I can tell when I'm under 300 and it just sucks...

raymar2020 (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:29 am Mr T,

There have been mixed reactions to the imbedded nature of my testes. At this point , I feel that just taking them out is the best solution. They are fairly regularly an achy situation. Health insurance though deems that it is not necessary. We are battling that decision.

I am regularly monitered, and as such any adverse change would be quickly noted.

As for the levels, I agree, that due to my having never had a high level, it is reasonable that I have a low tolerance for T.

I really do not like how I behave when I have too much.

Another interesting point is that I received private messages from several who are surgical eunuchs. They all said that one reason for castration was to combat their libido. Like me they all said that while it is not the burning desire that it once was, they are ready willing and able to perform when the opportunity presents itself.

All those that responded are using some form of HRT.

There are many on this board who can offer more insight to my questions, please respond.

Raymar