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Dateline NBC

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:43 am
by Hash (imported)
I've been watching some of Dateline NBC every once in awhile. The last month or two they've been showing men who chatted on line with who they thought was a thirteen year old girl. Turns out this was not a thirteen year old girl, it was more or less a police sting to catch sexual predators, but I was amazed at the men who actually acted and went to the home of this supposed thirteen year old girl. Most stated that they "messed up" and were "stupid." Most hoped they'd get off easy, they did not, and ended up in jail. Bond was usually around $30,000 dollars.

This tells me that the male sex drive, which is driven by testosterone, causes a majority of men to lose the ability of cognitive reasoning or at least testosterone usurps/over-rides a man's ability to think rationally and clearly. That indeed happened to me, though thankfully I never thought of young girls, rather, I abused myself and I'm actually thankful about that. There were times when I could not stop thinking about castration, I was driven to attempt it and I did, until finally I went to Dr. Kimmel and had it done. What this tells me is that the sex drive is so strong in a majority of men that they can't think straight. Most of the men arrested had families, good jobs or careers, one was a doctor. Why would they risk losing all of that? They risk it because testosterone pushes them to do it, without "t" as we eunuchs know, they could control their fantasies and there would not be a sex drive. Here's what I think. If you're a man with a fantasy about thirteen year old girls, get a grip or get castrated. Once arrested for any type of sex crime, your life will never ever be the same. Your sex crime will follow you for the rest of your life. So do something about your out of control sex drive now before you end up on Dateline NBC.

Re: Dateline NBC

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:28 am
by SplitDik (imported)
Despite the harsh treatment by society for sex offenders, I think that the huge prevalence of otherwise functional members of society risking it all for sexual outlet will eventually be realized to be what it really is -- an addiction sickness caused by testosterone.

Like you, I am glad I've never been interested in kids but I can sympathize because I know what lengths I went to to satisfy my own perversions.

I think this has to be treated as an illness by society, because many of these sex criminals are very functional otherwise. Teachers, priests, politicians. I'm sure that most of these people were tortured by their own urges, and if it was a commonly accepted as an illness then they could have felt comfortable approaching doctors for help. As it is now, a person that goes to a doctor and says "I'm tortured by my sexual attraction to children" is likely to get reported immediately. But the jails are filling up with these people!

Re: Dateline NBC

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:53 am
by Kangan (imported)
Yes, the testosterone urge is a major problem for some. I am beginning to feel sorry for the "victims" of Dateline's sting operation. These guys know that it could be a sting, but they are incabable psychologically of refusing an offer of sex from a supposed 13-year old girl (or boy). So they come anyway and get busted for it. In the spy trade, this sort of sting is known as a "Honey Pot." The victim is seduced and then is compromised or blackmailed (or arrested).

I know of many straight guys who lost their marriage and most of their money in a messy divorce because they could not control their sexual urges. This irrational behavior is NOT limited to perverts.

I am dismayed at the witchhunt mentality of the media and most of the general population. These poor guys are sick and it is high time that it was recognized as a disease and not a crime, and treated as a disease.

I am in favor of castration for folks that cannot control their sex lives.

Re: Dateline NBC

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:59 am
by Robby (imported)
What about this guy? Think testosterone got the better of him?...

GOP Rep. Mark Foley Resigns Over E-Mails (http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?c ... =itn_foley)

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By LARRY MARGASAK, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - In a scandal guaranteed to anger parents, a prominent House Republican has resigned after the revelation that he exchanged raunchy electronic messages with a teenage boy, a former congressional page.

Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., who is single, apologized Friday for letting down his family and constituents. Once his resignation letter was read to the House late Friday afternoon, Republicans spent the night trying to explain _ six weeks before congressional elections _ how this could have happened on their watch.

Near midnight, they engineered a vote to let the House ethics committee decide whether an investigation is needed.

Among the Republican explanations during the night:

_The congressional sponsor of the page, Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., said he was asked by the youth's parents not to pursue the matter, so he dropped it.

_Alexander said that before deciding to end his involvement, he passed on what he knew to the chairman of the House Republican campaign organization, Rep. Thomas Reynolds, R-N.Y. Reynolds' spokesman, Carl Forti, said "We are not characterizing conversations that Congressman Reynolds may have had or may not have had with other members of Congress on that subject."

_Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill., chairman of the Page Board that oversees the congressional work-study program for high schoolers, said he did investigate but Foley falsely assured him he was only mentoring the boy. Pages are high school students who attend classes under congressional supervision and work as messengers.

_The spokesman for Speaker Dennis Hastert, Ron Bonjean, said the top House Republican had not known about the allegations. Shimkus said he learned about them in late 2005.

Just as Shimkus' explanation was released, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi of California proposed to the House that its ethics committee investigate and make a preliminary report in 10 days. She demanded to know who knew of the messages, whether Foley had other contacts with pages and when the Republican leadership was notified of Foley's conduct.

Instead, majority Republicans engineered a vote to allow the ethics panel to decide whether there should even be an investigation.

Foley's departure sent Republicans scrambling for a replacement candidate.

Foley, 52, had been a shoo-in for a new term until the e-mail correspondence surfaced in recent days. The page was 16 at the time of the correspondence.

Foley's resignation further complicates the political landscape for Republicans, who are fighting to retain control of Congress. Democrats need to win a net of 15 Republican seats to regain the power they lost in 1994.

Florida Republicans planned to meet as soon as Monday to name a replacement in Foley's district, which President Bush won with 55 percent in 2004 and is now in play for November. Though Florida ballots have already been printed with Foley's name and cannot be changed, any votes for Foley will count toward the party's choice.

Hastert said Friday he had asked Shimkus to investigate the page system. "We want to make sure that all our pages are safe and the page system is safe," Hastert said.

ABC News reported Friday that Foley also engaged in a series of sexually explicit instant messages with current and former pages, all male. In one message, ABC said, Foley wrote to one page, "Do I make you a little horny?"

In another message, Foley wrote, "You in your boxers, too? ... Well, strip down and get relaxed."

Foley, as chairman of the Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus, had introduced legislation in July to protect children from exploitation by adults over the Internet. He also sponsored other legislation designed to protect minors from abuse and neglect.

"We track library books better than we do sexual predators," Foley has said.

Foley, who represented an area around Palm Beach County, e-mailed the page in August 2005. Foley asked him how he was doing after Hurricane Katrina and what he wanted for his birthday. The congressman also asked the boy to send a photo of himself, according to excerpts of the e-mails that were originally released by ABC News.

The e-mails were posted Friday on the Web site of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington after ABC News reported their existence.

Naomi Seligman, a spokeswoman for CREW, said the group also sent a letter to the FBI after it received the e-mails. CREW did not post their copies of the e-mail until ABC News reported them, instead waiting for the investigation.

"The House of Representatives has an obligation to protect the teenagers who come to Congress to learn about the legislative process," the group wrote.

According to the CREW posting, the boy e-mailed a colleague in Alexander's office about Foley's e-mails, saying, "This freaked me out." On the request for a photo, the boy repeated the word "sick" 13 times.

He said Foley asked for his e-mail when the boy gave him a thank-you card. The boy also said Foley wrote that he had e-mailed another page.

"he's such a nice guy," Foley wrote about the other boy. "acts much older than his age...and hes in really great shape...i am just finished riding my bike on a 25 mile journey now heading to the gym...whats school like for you this year?"

In other e-mails, Foley wrote: "I am back in Florida now...its nice here...been raining today...it sounds like you will have some fun over the next few weeks...how old are you now?" and "how are you weathering the hurricane...are you safe...send me an email pic of you as well."

Re: Dateline NBC

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:20 am
by JesusA (imported)
In the entire Clinton–Lewinsky saga, it wasn't about Clinton's sex, it was about his choice of partners. All this time I was so wrong about the Republican Party. They don't have a problem with sex, they have a problem with men having sex with adult women.

G.O.P. does seem to fit them well: Greedy Obfiscating Pedophiles!

It turns out that the House G.O.P. leadership knew about this affair for six month, but didn't take any action. Apparently, they saw nothing wrong with it and didn't want to endanger Foley's house seat.