Hello everyone.

I'm new to the forum and I would like to have some infos from people who did castration with a Burdizzo clamp. I have read a lot of cons abouth this methode, but I'm determined to castrate myself and the cheaper and easyest way to do it is with a Burdizzo. I also don't whant any scars since I'm gonna have a SRS one day (If I can found the money!!!).

I have a Burdizzo clamp, a 50ml ox Xylocaine and some needles #30. What I whant to know is how much xylocaine should I shoot on each side? Is 3cc enough? Do I have to shoot some in the spermatic cord (if ther's no blood of course)? I did an atempt, but it was too hurtfull. I had shot only 1,5cc and even if my scrotum was pretty numb, When I aplied the Burdizzo, I felt a very hurtfull pain in the stomach (like if someone had kick me in the balls). Will it be less hurtfull if I shoot myself more xylocaine. I realy have a problem with hurt. For the rest, I should be fine. I know I have to make sure that there is no blood in the sering and I have to clamp the spermatic cord for abouth 30sec. Any suggestions are welcome. You can PM me, e-mail me (learich1980@hotmail.com) or answer in this thread.

Just to mention that I'm gonna castrate myself 'cause I'm whaiting for more than 1 year to have acces to a team for TS and then whait another 2 years for hormonal treatments that will be very expensive. I'm still young and don't whant to loose my time with bureaucracy. And of course, money is the biggest issue. If I had enough money, I'll travel to anywhere to get a descent castration or even SRS in thailand, but my only option is BURDIZZO. And getting medecine in Canada is very hard and expensive (I know, less expensive then in US). BTW, sorry for my bad english, french is my mother language.

Lea

Self-castration is of course dangerous, but you've made it clear that you are determined to do it.

To make it as safe as possible, do NOT use Xylocaine that is augmented with adrenaline. Also, get someone to be with you, perhaps another transexual who will understand your desire. (I'm in Vancouver, so if you're in this part of Canada I could be provide some support.)

Just follow the directions regarding amounts and injection location. You do NOT want to get the Xylocaine into your bloodstream.

Note that you can still get serious scarring from burdizzo, as well as other complications that could adversely affect later SRS.

Note that burdizzo is often not effective to acheive full castration on humans. This is because herd animals (for which burdizzo is designed) have brittle spermatic cords while humans have flexible ones.

Another thing is that if you can't stand pain, I don't suggest you do any self-castration. Even if you use the Xylocaine properly for the burdizzo act, the pain will be intense for up to two weeks during recovery.

you can't burdizzo yourself alone. It's too hard to manipulate the clamp while your body is starting to hurt. So:

#1 - have a friend around to help

#2 - have a friend around to watch your for a few days. That is to visually inspect your crushed testicles for internal bleeding several times a day.

#3 - have a friend around who is willing to get you to a hopspital in case of emergency. If the worst happens, don't hesitate to get to the emergency room.

#4 - have a friend around period.

#5 - be carefull, plan what you are going to do and rehearse it a few times before you do it. You don't want any surprises during the process.

#6 - Plan to do this more than once (A few weeks or months apart). The human body is remarkably resilient and the first time might not work.

As others have said self castration is hard to do and in most cases you should be perpaired for a trip to the emergency room.We have seen this befor and most of the time it will cost you a lot more to try this on your own instead of saving up your money and getting the proper help you need.Lea80 my next advice is to try chem cast for at least two years again we have seen others try this without the trial run only to find out they were unhappy with their decission and once their gone you cant put them back on.

I can see by your post that you are very determaned to get this done and get on with your life as the person that you want and need to be but please do this in a safe way so you will have the best out come and be happy for the rest of your life that you did everything you could to do this in a way you wont regret anything.

And yes we do care about you and keeping you as safe as possable so take care my friend.

Thanks for the answers. I know Burdizzo is an unsafe methode, but since it's the only way for me to stop the testosterone effects, I don't realy have a choice. I'ld have to whait at least 2 years before I can have chimical castration and It would cost me a lot. Doing it myself is a cheaper choice. And even if I end at the hospital, it will at least proove to my psy my determination. And hospitalisation is free in Canada. It REALY scares me to do this and if I could I'll found an other way, but it is the only solution. I wont wait at least 2 years just to have spironolactone prescription. Or maybe someone in Canada could scan me a prescription so I can copy it. But I doubt... I ask to few people and they were... lets say unpleasants. As for the regrets, believe me I wont have any. As a TS, it can only be a relief. I'm on Diane35 now (the only thing i was able to found) and it helps a little. Me body is changing and I feel better.

Thanks SplitDik for the offer, but I'm in Quebec City and I don't plan to go to Vancouver before august.

Well anyway... thanks for the advice. If I find the courage to do it I'll keep you all informed!!!

Lea

please, go read the ARCHIVE's sections on chemical castration. You don't need prescriptions to get some of these drugs and they are much safer.

Dave (imported) wrote: Sat May 07, 2005 5:30 am please, go read the ARCHIVE's sections on chemical castration. You don't need prescriptions to get some of these drugs and they are much safer.

Unfortunately, none of the Internet drug companies will ship to Canada. Canada has much stricter import laws than US.

Also, I think Lea is hoping to avoid the expense of chemical castration.

Please don't attempt this, you might end up dead. If not successfully accomplished, your damaged testicles and blood vessels, might cause a clot and that clot might end up in your heart and that will be that. You could develop a hematoma. You have been warned. Try pleading your case with your local physician, maybe he or she will consent to castration, don't give up. But please don't attempt this. Hash

Here's something to think about and might be the result of "freezing" if you try it.

From: C.J.

Date: 6-15-03

Subject: Vasectomy leads to castration

I would like to relate a tale of utter horror I have gone through with my vasectomy. In June of 2002 I had a vasectomy performed. Right away there were complications, namely an infection that spread to my testicles. After 3 rounds of antibiotics, my general practitioner referred me to a urologist who informed me that I needed a dual orchiectomy, in essence making me a eunuch. My wife was rather concerned about this procedure, but after 5 separate second consultations I knew I had to have the operation. The antibiotics had failed and I was in severe pain and had massive swelling in my testicles and scrotum.

The orchiectomy was performed and the pain and swelling subsided within a week. Now I was faced with the fact that I had to live my life as a eunuch and had some psychological problems to deal with. Months of counseling helped, but there was one more insult to add to my injury. My wife told me she wanted another child. We have 2 wonderful kids already. This reversal of her decision caused me to become very angry and resentful of her because of the shared decision we had made for me to get a vasectomy.

My wife informed me that she wanted to adopt another child, I told her NO, since I had become a eunuch and had to wear testosterone patches, she would not get to adopt a child. She had her chance to have another child when I was still fully functional. As you would expect, this has caused friction in the relationship, but too damn bad! I made the ultimate sacrifice for our relationship and I will have a large say on how our lives will progress.

I used to be a robust man of 6' 5", 220 lbs. Now I weigh 153 lbs. Quite a change, I think most of it is due to psychological factors, but never the less, I cannot put on muscle mass even though I eat right and work out diligently.

Since the operation I have been non-functional sexually and have erectile dysfunction. Viagra does not do the trick, I need to use that damn Caverject, you know-the tube you have to stick in your penis to squirt the Caverject compound into the urethra.

Sex is actually painful for me now, my wife tries to understand, but she cannot fully understand the physical changes a man goes through when he loses his "manhood." I take full responsibility for my actions, I underwent the vasectomy because my wife and I had decided not to have anymore children. It was also a shared decision as man and wife. To this day she is reluctant to accept any responsibility for her part in the decision process. I understand her: She cannot accept the fact that she played decision role in my mutilation.

The final insult to this nightmare happened on my 35th birthday. I had just come from an appointment at my urologist for a 90 day post-op checkup. My wife had a planned a birthday party for me, I arrived and was talking with my friends and having a good time, suddenly I felt some something warm trickling down my leg, I had urinated on myself. There was no urge to go to the bathroom; it just happened. I was highly embarrassed by this situation. While I went to the bedroom to change clothes, my wife actually told some of our friends that I had a botched vasectomy and had another operation to remove my testicles.

So you now can add incontinence to my medical issues. My friends never looked at me the same again after my wife told them my complete shame as an ex-man. That night I packed my stuff and moved out, I told my wife I could not put up with her intentional breach of my personal privacy.

My urologist thinks that there is some residual nerve damage from the operation. I am now on three different medications for incontinence, loss of testosterone (the patch), Xanax, and Procain tablets.

As it stands now, I have reconciled with my wife. I needed her to accept her role in what had happened to me, and through counseling she finally accepted her role in the nightmare. I laid down some fairly tough needs and desires that had to be met by her if our relationship was to stay alive. I would not compromise on several key relationship issues: It was a "take it or leave it" situation.

To all men thinking about a vasectomy: DON'T DO IT! Condoms are much cheaper than your manhood. If your wife or girlfriend's pressure you to have a vasectomy, tell them to have a radical mastectomy and have them think how they would feel afterward.

Hello list,

I don't know if this adds up to the discussion, but:

During my 5 year experience with various t-lowering measures, I've discovered that temporary clamping with a knot might lower your t significantly the first few hours or even days. The technique I refer to is not a die hard knotting such as burdizzo, rather, it's a semi-tight band that would impair blood flow without causing a complete blockage. Doing so it's possible to band and twist the balls upwards holding appr. 30min-1hr (I did it up to 4hr, though). I noticed that twisting one time up is important. The time depends on your level of pain tolerance. During this time they'll turn blue, with progressive (albeit incomplete) numbness of the scrotum, as well as balls. I've done this maybe 1000 times or more and each time I felt my t was significantly reduced. I believe a short-term oxygen starvation of this sort cause a reduction of t, and short-term side-effects are minimal to none (provided you apply Aloe Vera or other healing creams on the clamping site). This is also because tissue necrosis cannot occur during such a short time with only 80% tightness of the clamp.

However, I am not sure to what extent the reduciton in hormone levels happen, and what long-term impact on testicular function it might have. There is little doubt that repetiteveness of such a procedure will cause significant damage to the leydig cells. However, even after a long practice I always felt t would come back after a few hours or days. Unfortunately, I did not measure my hormone levels during this time and follow up to compare with pre-procedure levels. Still, I felt the "comebacks" were to pre-op levels, especially in the beginning. I did not experience any blood clots, necrosis or any other health side-effects. Only once I had a small bleeding lesion on the clamping site wich healed within a week. Otherwise some short-term irritation and soreness was observed, wich was more common.

Funny, an interesting effect of this type of clamping I observed was a dramatic increase in stool movement. This is due to a combined reflex of abdominal pain and bowel movement - I guess. An interesting measure against obstipacy

Similar experiences, anyone?