Hi folks! I have been lurking on this board for awhile now. After reading many posts from you folk, I still have not found anyone who can provide info on what happens after a nullification. Are there any major adjustments to overcome (other than the fact that you have no penis or testicles)? What sort of physical changes should I expect? What if a guy has large thighs...will they get in the way of the new piss hole when sitting to pee? What about hot flashes...how intense are they and how long do they last? What sort of "feminization" takes place after becoming a nullo (provided you don't undergo HRT)?

I am a 40-year old gay male and have been thinking about doing away with my penis and testicles. It is not that I don't like them, but they do tend to get in the way at times. I don't use my penis to have sex...I am basically a passive partner in the sexual arena.

Is there anyone willing to talk with me about my questions? Or, are there other sources of info (books, websites, etc) that will help to explain the aftermath of nullification? I am still researching this as of now; however, I have taken the step of purchasing an Elastrator off eBay for possible use in the future. Any help would be appreciated....

inthesticks (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2003 9:23 pm Hi folks! I have been lurking on this board for awhile now. After reading many posts from you folk, I still have not found anyone who can provide info on what happens after a nullification. Are there any major adjustments to overcome (other than the fact that you have no penis or testicles)? What sort of physical changes should I expect? What if a guy has large thighs...will they get in the way of the new piss hole when sitting to pee? What about hot flashes...how intense are they and how long do they last? What sort of "feminization" takes place after becoming a nullo (provided you don't undergo HRT)?....

I cannot help you on the effects of a penectomy, but here is a brief summery of the effects of a castration. This summery is a work-in-progress, and suggestions for improvement are always welcome.



Every Eunuch will have different effects from his castration. Some of this may depend on whether he is an “elective” Eunuch or not. YMWV = Your Mileage Will vary. Some side effects of castration are:

Infertility, in all cases.

Many (but not all) elective eunuchs develop “The Eunuch Calm”, with reduced or eliminated thoughts of sex, aggression, and ambition. In the words of Dr. Spector, “either case of TS or eunuch, a deep, calm serenity develops which, from then on, makes life far more worthwhile.” This has happened to me, but again, YMWV. This is less likely to happen to non-elective eunuchs.

Reduced libido, erections, and nocturnal emissions, sometimes to the point of total asexuality.

Weight gain, including subcutaneous body fat. This thin layer of fat causes the skin to become softer and smoother.

Loss or thinning of body hair, but male pattern baldness slows down or stops. Reduced body odor.

Loss of lean muscle mass (hence muscle weakness, increased fatigue, and loss of stamina). Your shoulders will become narrower and you will lose muscle definition in your upper torso without a VIGOROUS exercise program.

Little to mild breast development, and mild fat redistribution around the hips and thighs.

The penis may shrink.

Hot flushes and night sweats in some cases, lasting up to 5 years.

POSSIBLE moodiness and tearfulness. Do not be surprised if you start crying far more frequently over what may seem to be trivial matters.

There MIGHT be cognitive losses, mostly in spatial orientation and short term memory

Post-surgical depression is common. Possible chronic depression SHOULD be a major concern, and may require professional therapy. This is far more likely to happen to non-elective eunuchs.

The WORST side effect is osteoporosis. You should take at least 1,500 MG of calcium and 400 IU of Vitamin A daily. Shortly before or after castration, you should have a bone density scan, and after that a scan every two years. A proper diet and exercise program will help in the battle against osteoporosis.

Most Physicians have no experience in caring for a hypogonadal man. Consider finding a Physician who has a thorough working knowledge on the problems and treatments of menopausal and post-menopausal women. Whilst the biology of a Eunuch and a post-menopausal woman are not identical, there is some overlap.

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Have you seen Tomas' website? It talks quite a bit about the effects of nullification, and how he got nullified.

http://www.bmeworld.com/smooth/00_02.htm

I'd like to add one thing in answer that isn't in my FAQ, already mentioned above:

Sitting to pee shouldn't be messy if one has heavy thighs so long as the new urinary opening is properly placed far enough back. I can't swear to this, as I'm not a "heavy thigh" person, but just by examining a couple of the images on my pages that show the actual urinary opening, then checking to see if the equivalent spot is still open on a heavy thighed person when they are sitting on the pot might give the best answer ...

http://home.earthlink.net/~imagepool/T_sig6.gif

Tom, your website is sure 1 of my favourites but ..can there b more updates? so regulars will revisit it.. like you in different positions, showing u urinating etc... it has been static for quite some time now..

inthesticks (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2003 9:23 pm Hi folks! I have been lurking on this board for awhile now. After reading many posts from you folk, I still have not found anyone who can provide info on what happens after a nullification. Are there any major adjustments to overcome (other than the fact that you have no penis or testicles)? What sort of physical changes should I expect? What if a guy has large thighs...will they get in the way of the new piss hole when sitting to pee? What about hot flashes...how intense are they and how long do they last? What sort of "feminization" takes place after becoming a nullo (provided you don't undergo HRT)?

I am a 40-year old gay male and have been thinking about doing away with my penis and testicles. It is not that I don't like them, but they do tend to get in the way at times. I don't use my penis to have sex...I am basically a passive partner in the sexual arena.

Is there anyone willing to talk with me about my questions? Or, are there other sources of info (books, websites, etc) that will help to explain the aftermath of nullification? I am still researching this as of now; however, I have taken the step of purchasing an Elastrator off eBay for possible use in the future. Any help would be appreciated....

Not much to add from what has already been said, but remember this is major surgery, have a qualified surgen do the job, you will be happer with the result and you will still be alive.

Osteoporosis: Like andrew said, Bone Scan every two years and you may need to tell your doctor you need it. I did and found out I have it, it is curable, I take a drug (Fosamax 70 mg) once a week, 1500 mg of calicum daily and a workout at the gym three times a week. This is not something to take lightly.

Without HRT you my find you no longer have any interest in sex. Something you may want to think about.

Last, find a doctor now, one that you trust and tell him what you want to do, get him on your side and let him keep tabs on your condition. I see my doctor every 6 weeks, I never know what for, he has his own list.

River