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with the Mayan doomsday being BS aren't people forgetting Issac Newton's prediction
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:20 am
by foxytaur (imported)
One more prediction left to go.
The end of the world to end around 2060
Ugh..... here we go again!!!!(geez these doomsayer's keep coming in one form or another)
Newton though the champion (as was leibniz) for reinventing Calculus was more crazy than
what he's potrayed in today's schools as the dazzling 100% intelectual.
Remember guys. He devoted more of his time with alchemly, religious scripts and witchcraft in his spare time than science.
Though highly improbable. What if this loon actually get the date right?
Naw im just fucking with you guys.....Who here agrees Newton is full of shit ?
Re: with the Mayan doomsday being BS aren't people forgetting Issac Newton's prediction
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:30 am
by foxytaur (imported)
This was part 1 of the video the nostradamus effect I saw way back when I was in highschool.
I took this video as quite entertaining.
Can sombeody plz care to explain what is man's obsession with wanting the world to come to an end?
I swear if I was data from startrek my response would be : "error, error logic does not compute"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dvl_-vQi23s& ... vl_-vQi23s
Re: with the Mayan doomsday being BS aren't people forgetting Issac Newton's prediction
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:47 am
by Dave (imported)
I think that most of this is merely fear of the unknown.
The first "infinite" that scares people is in math because the sets of numbers (like integers and fractions) are infinite. This fact in some times and cultures was enough to get you burnt at the stake as a heretic.
In the modern world, most people won't take any comfort in the facts that the universe began 14.5 billion years ago and will last at least another 14.5 billion years. Not only that, there might be no bounds to the universe. IT might extend forever in all directions.
To anyone feeling lonely and insignificant, those things provide no comfort.
To look out at the universe that timeless and that vast scares people and thus, they invent time limits and endings and make themselves special and unique. Think of the first great battle that Galileo and Copernicus fought -- the universe is not earth-centric. All of the creation myths that are being argued as some form of belief rather than science limit the universe and make man special.
Re: with the Mayan doomsday being BS aren't people forgetting Issac Newton's prediction
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:18 pm
by Stumpycoon (imported)
Check the list. We can all see how many doomsdays have we all survived.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_da ... tic_events
Re: with the Mayan doomsday being BS aren't people forgetting Issac Newton's prediction
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:41 pm
by Losethem (imported)
I don't know about you, but I think I've survived about 15 of these end of the world things.
--LT
Re: with the Mayan doomsday being BS aren't people forgetting Issac Newton's prediction
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:53 pm
by foxytaur (imported)
Thanks for link. My reasoning is more in alignment with the heatdeath or deep freeze theory of the universe ending with it continually expanding to the point where entropy can no longer be sustained in a definite region. Thus getting colder. Thanks dave and stumpycoon
Re: with the Mayan doomsday being BS aren't people forgetting Issac Newton's prediction
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:57 pm
by gareth19 (imported)
foxytaur (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:20 am
Remember guys. He devoted more of his time with alchemly, religious scripts and witchcraft in his spare time than science.
Though highly improbable. What if this loon actually get the date right?
Naw im just fucking with you guys.....Who here agrees Newton is full of shit ?
Probably none. You are forgetting that the distinction between alchemy and chemistry did not exist in Newton's day and that any particulate theory of matter (such as Newton held; in the Opticks he posits the existence of "small glassy particles" of light to account for the refraction of light beams) would also predict the transmutation of matter by the rearrangement of those particles. The fact that Newton did not possess the energy to overcome the weak and strong nuclear binding forces to effect the rearrangement of subatomic particles means that his efforts at transmutation failed, but the conception is entirely rational. Similarly, in a world in which witchcraft and Biblical inerrancy were taken seriously, Newton's researches into Biblical chronology, prophesy, and witchcraft are entirely reasonable. Bishop Ussher, whose 4004 BC date is now so frequently held up to modern ridicule, was a well respected thinker, an expert on Semitic languages, who produced a critical analysis of the Hebrew Bible whose major conclusion are still accepted and was responsible for the preservation of the Book of Kells. Cotton Mather, whose Wonders of the Invisible World sought to justify the belief in the Salem witches also was an early advocate of inoculation against small pox and researcher of the gulf stream. Kepler cast horoscopes and upto his dying day was looking for a mathematically beautiful account of the solar system. The features we most admire, the elliptical orbits and the variable speed of the planetary orbits were stop-gap measures to account for the observations, but Kepler still believed in a harmonious creation of a purely mathematical design. Lavoisier disposed of phlogiston but still believed in the fluid caloric and the luminiferous aether. Great scientists are great men, but they are men, not gods, and they are capable of error. If you want infallibility, go to Rome or seek out Al Qaeda where you will find many who will readily make such claims.
Re: with the Mayan doomsday being BS aren't people forgetting Issac Newton's prediction
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:22 am
by artisticlicense (imported)
Neat. I've never seen that before.
They forgot about the "other" Mayan calendar called the Tzolk'in, and it's going to end its 13th b'ak'tun (cycle) on March 31, 2013. The Tzolk'in predicts 'a great change' (or crisis).
One must remember that the Mayan language is nearly extinct, same for the pictographs and runes left behind. A whole lot of guessing going on. Not to mention that their system of counting was in units of '20' and restarted (had new life - world ends/begins), where modern units of counting are of '10' with no end (we just add another "0").