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John Carter of Mars
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:02 pm
by Slammr (imported)
Since, as a kid, I read every Edgar Rice Burroughs book about John Carter of Mars I could find at the library and loved them all, I wanted to see this movie, the first blockbuster of the year, or so the advertisements said. I even saw it in Imax 3d.
It has no soul. It's made John Carter out to be another Marvel, superhuman, comic book, character. I found myself not giving a shit about this cardboard, cartoon, character.
Certainly, someone from Earth, given our greater gravity, would be strong on Mars, but this John Carter could leap hundreds of feet into the air. In one scene, he's fighting thousands, killing hundreds of them until they overpower him by shear weight of numbers, and in another scene, one of them is holding him off the ground with one hand around his neck, and he can't do anything about it. Even a movie should make a little sense.
Maybe I missed something about how he got these superhuman powers, but it doesn't matter. That he had them ruined the movie for me.
Re: John Carter of Mars
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:01 pm
by MacTheWolf (imported)
I saw a bad movie based on the Gor series long ago. It too was gawd aweful.
Slammr - Were the Green Martians decent looking?
Re: John Carter of Mars
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:51 pm
by bobover3 (imported)
I haven't seen John Carter yet, but this is a terrible let down. Andrew Stanton, the director, is the main creator of the Toy Story movies (1,2, and 3), Wall-E, Finding Nemo, and Monsters, Inc. He's widely seen as a genius. This is his first foray into live film. Too bad.
Re: John Carter of Mars
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:09 pm
by Slammr (imported)
MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:01 pm
I saw a bad movie based on the Gor series long ago. It too was gawd aweful.
Slammr - Were the Green Martians decent looking?
They reminded me too much of that stupid Jar Jinks in Star Wars.
Re: John Carter of Mars
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:21 pm
by Slammr (imported)
bobover3 (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:51 pm
I haven't seen John Carter yet, but this is a terrible let down. Andrew Stanton, the director, is the main creator of the Toy Story movies (1,2, and 3), Wall-E, Finding Nemo, and Monsters, Inc. He's widely seen as a genius. This is his first foray into live film. Too bad.
I really wanted to like this movie, but I was disappointed in it. Maybe if I hadn't gone into it with high expectations, I would have liked it better, but I don't think so. Like I said, it had no soul. I'm not even sure it had a plot.
Mostly, it was just a bunch of action scenes with John Carter being a superhuman in one and a wimp in the next. They made no sense. While I am able to suspend disbelief and be entertained by a movie, this one went too far. He would weigh a little less than half of what he would on Earth. How would that enable him to leap hundreds if not thousands, of feet into the air? And would it enable him to break steel chains and pull apart boulders?
The more I think about this movie, the more pissed I get. They had no right to screw up a story and a character I loved as a kid. It's like what the movie, Battlefield Earth did with a book I liked.
Re: John Carter of Mars
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:01 am
by sduyck_2000 (imported)
i watched john carter on my computer
hated it
very boring ..great movie idea .... poorly executed
the ending seemed very rushed...like they ran out of time
i would not pay to see this movie and would feel cheated if i did
Re: John Carter of Mars
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:27 am
by curious_guy (imported)
sduyck_2000 (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:01 am
i watched john carter on my computer
hated it
very boring ..great movie idea .... poorly executed
the ending seemed very rushed...like they ran out of time
i would not pay to see this movie and would feel cheated if i did
It sounds to me as if they needed a better script. In April 2001 Warren James did an interview with Charles Edward Pogue. In that interview Warren said, "his screenplay for A Princess of Mars is one of the best screenplays that I've ever read. It captures the adventure of the Edgar Rice Burroughs Mars stories while managing to find a take on the characters that is both contemporary and respectful to the original story."
I wonder why Disney did not use that screenplay.
The interview with Charles Edward Pogue is long so Warren divided it into two parts. I think the part about the Princess of Mars screenplay is in the second part on the interview. You can find links to the first part and the complete interview here:
http://hour25online.com/Hour25_Previous ... 2001-04-18
Here is the link to the second part of the interview:
http://hour25online.com/Hour25_Previous ... 2001-04-30
Re: John Carter of Mars
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:43 pm
by Dave (imported)
>>Looks like we have a winner from the film critics for worst picture of this year already.
>>I mean to say that ISHTAR is legendary in the annals of bad movies.
>>Hey, you might like JOHN CARTER but they don't...
>>
New 'Ishtar?' 'Carter' to lose $200M for Disney
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46788408/ns ... 2eySo7Y0lU
By Lisa Richwine
LOS ANGELES — Walt Disney Co shares fell 1 percent in after hour trading on Monday after the company said it expects mega-budget science-fiction movie "John Carter" will lose about $200 million in the current quarter.
The company issued the forecast in a statement that projected the studio division would report an overall operating loss of $80 million to $120 million in the fiscal second quarter that ends March 31.
Disney shares dropped about 1 percent to $43 in after-hours trading from an earlier close of $43.44 on the New York Stock Exchange.
So far, the film about a former military captain who is transported to Mars, has generated $184 million in ticket sales worldwide. That is far shy from the audience needed to earn back the movie's estimated $250 million production budget, plus tens of millions more that Disney spent on advertising.
Even before the movie opened, Wall Street analysts had projected "John Carter" would lose tens of millions of dollars as industry tracking showed little interest in the film.
"John Carter" opened on March 9 and took in about $30 million over its first three days at U.S. and Canadian theaters, finishing the weekend in second place behind family film "The Lorax."
Re: John Carter of Mars
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:19 pm
by Dave (imported)
STARZ has got JOHN CARTER OF MARS in its list of movies and is running it over and over, time after time, repeatedly.
That's what STARZ does.
I loved the books but the movie let me down.
It is rollicking and action filled sometime... All the right parts of BARSOOM are there... excellently so.
It is sweet love story others.
It has a quirky frame.
Much of the logic of the movie is so incomprehensible as to be worthless.
Other parts of the plot suck so bad, they... well they just suck.
But as long as you check your brain at the door (so to speak) big chunks of it are fun to watch the right parts.
Bring beer and popcorn and your best snark and snide.
It helps to jeer the movie for funsies at the ridiculous parts.
It pays to return to the age of twelve and mock the kissing parts.
Then it works.