Maybe it is the start of a new year that has brought this to mind. However, I have spent some days as time allowed reading the mega thread http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthread ... -Injection that Danielle started. Anyone who reads it from beginning to end is worthy of some sort of prize! By that I mean it is a long thread, with loads of information, links, and even more to think about, not to mention the concerns and care always evident here.

For myself it has given me a lot to think about to deal with my own issues, that is another story! But another thought has come to me.

How about a 'primer' on diet, exercise and vitamins for the healthy eunuch?

Within EA all the information is probably buried in here, there are zillions of posts on vitamin D recommendations etc. The after effects of castration etc.

It just occurred to me that a a thread like 'The Castration Primer, would be useful and a place to have all the healthy stuff.

So many of us are so focused on getting 'the job done' we give little thought to healthy living with diet, vitamins and exercise.(or am i totally on my own?) It just occurred to me reading that thread, that many people were being delivered and may not have thought much about what to do to stay healthy and fit for life. The transition to Eunuch is so enormous and many of us driven so much, we might end up with brittle bones and all sorts of issues with blood sugar levels, cholesterol...... which could be avoided with a healthy regimen.

Just a thought. Happy New Year.

I have been working on my own for over a year about getting blood testing and protocols for testosterone replacement therapy. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence but it is pretty vague.

Wellesley (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:25 pm I have been working on my own for over a year about getting blood testing and protocols for testosterone replacement therapy. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence but it is pretty vague.

Are you getting your Estrogen checked as well as your Testosterone? Taking TRT can also cause a rise in you E as the T is converts to estrogen. You may need to take Arimidex or another medication to keep it in check.

jcat (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:33 am Maybe it is the start of a new year that has brought this to mind. However, I have spent some days as time allowed reading the mega thread http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthread ... -Injection that Danielle started. Anyone who reads it from beginning to end is worthy of some sort of prize! By that I mean it is a long thread, with loads of information, links, and even more to think about, not to mention the concerns and care always evident here.

For myself it has given me a lot to think about to deal with my own issues, that is another story! But another thought has come to me.

How about a 'primer' on diet, exercise and vitamins for the healthy eunuch?

Within EA all the information is probably buried in here, there are zillions of posts on vitamin D recommendations etc. The after effects of castration etc.

It just occurred to me that a a thread like 'The Castration Primer, would be useful and a place to have all the healthy stuff.

So many of us are so focused on getting 'the job done' we give little thought to healthy living with diet, vitamins and exercise.(or am i totally on my own?) It just occurred to me reading that thread, that many people were being delivered and may not have thought much about what to do to stay healthy and fit for life. The transition to Eunuch is so enormous and many of us driven so much, we might end up with brittle bones and all sorts of issues with blood sugar levels, cholesterol...... which could be avoided with a healthy regimen.

Just a thought. Happy New Year.

You may be onto something there jcat with regard to healthy foods for eunuchs. There is already heaps of info on the web if you are looking for calcium rich foods. For instance, in addition to taking a 800mg Calcium & Vitamin D tablet, I take natural low fat plain yoghurt daily, some cheeses (e.g. Edam & Cheddar) and sardines in oil which are, based on what I've read, rich in calcium.

Wellesley (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:25 pm I have been working on my own for over a year about getting blood testing and protocols for testosterone replacement therapy. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence but it is pretty vague.

Sorting out the anecdotal from the real is a real challenge, which is where my thoughts were going. It could also be that as I get older I am more conscious of the fact that I am not in fact immortal! That higher cholesterol, blood pressure are all part of 50+. That said please post your findings here as it will be from here we can create some sort of information pool.

Crownjewels (imported) wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:54 am You may be onto something there jcat with regard to healthy foods for eunuchs. There is already heaps of info on the web if you are looking for calcium rich foods. For instance, in addition to taking a 800mg Calcium & Vitamin D tablet, I take natural low fat plain yoghurt daily, some cheeses (e.g. Edam & Cheddar) and sardines in oil which are, based on what I've read, rich in calcium.

Thanks CJ, There are also soya rich foods that are a source of estrogen, which may help the overall balance. I don't know enough about it to be a guide. I am happy to try and draw all the posts together here though and with some help we may end with something really useful.

Estrogen or estradiol? I know about the possibility of excess T converting to E, thus will get that checked tomorrow.

Hematocrit is supposed to be checked every 3 months to make sure it is not over 54% if it is donating blood seems to be the treatment

For healthy men a T level of 250 - 360 is considered acceptable to begin TRT treatment. (Campbell-Walsh Urology 10th edition)

Ethanate is a longer chain thus is supposed to have a longer effective time in the body thus they say 2 - 4 weeks between injections (for ED or otherwise healthy males though) at a dosage of 150 - 300mgs, If I follow that plan I get terrible roller coaster effects. Thus I chose to try a stable course of 125mgs per week. I am thinking I need to up that due to the changes in my lifestyle and the increased stresses. I may need around 200mgs now to achieve the same levels (around 500) as previous.

PSA every 6 months? that is the cast for older men with Low T, for those needing total replacement there are no really good numbers I think. at least once per year?

Calcium and vitamin D are recommended after bilateral orchiectomy for prostate cancer, after orchiectomy for testicular cancer or other reasons?

Seems also studies are divided on the long term health issues. One side says that from studying eunuchs in history that lifespan is not effected the other side says that life span is effected due to the coronary artery diseases. Hmmm diet then plays a lot into that, historical diet and modern diet are no where near the same. (those studies are again in the same Campbell-Walsh text)

I tend to think that body mass should be a factor in determining dosages as well just like cancer drugs, if the dosage is for an average American male, ( 182 pounds and 5 foot 11 inches makes a body area of 2.042233 metres squared) my body area is 2.44639 metres squared thus is 16.5 percent larger than the "normal" average for the standard dosage calculation.

Here in Japan, almost all meds have smaller dosages than those found in the US or Europe due in large part to body size differences. Pain meds are a huge problem, Japanese men tend to be around 65kg and 170cm tall (yeah I am metric sorry) the point is that for most non-Japanese living here we are used to dosage sizes of at least 3 times larger.

Anyway my 2 cents.

For me, I go ahead and take a generic multivitamin (without iron), a small calcium, and 0.3mg Estrin (minimal amount of estrogen recommended for menopause) on most days along with eating my greens. Also exercise, sunshine and fesh air.

Sounds to me like a great idea. Would help us to keep our weight in check as well as all other things. That would make us only more healthy.

I'm on TRT due to having low T levels/hypogonadism. I use 80mg a week, but I divide it into two 40mg injections every 4 days. No roller coaster, and I feel better than when I did it weekly. A great source of information can be found on the hypogonadism2 group on Yahoo.