Not sure where else to place this, so I guess here will have to do.

I've been wondering, does anyone else on this forum play dungeons and dragons? If so, what do you think of a castration mechanic for D&D? And what are you suggestions on how to do it? The book of erotic fantasy gives a harem guard prestige class which kind covers it, but not really.

noxmagnus (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:36 pm Not sure where else to place this, so I guess here will have to do.

I've been wondering, does anyone else on this forum play dungeons and dragons? If so, what do you think of a castration mechanic for D&D? And what are you suggestions on how to do it? The book of erotic fantasy gives a harem guard prestige class which kind covers it, but not really.

Well, aside from myself, I suspect that anybody gelding a Unicorn would be made to suffer an automatic alignment shift, and there have been a few storys about gelding dragons, one gelding of a minotaur that was really unfinished or really rushed at the end, a centaur, (which was more violent than needed to be, as they blinded the poor thing too) Gelding a Pegasus may take a lot of planing to catch one first, and of course, the thought of wandering through the monster manual with a cutters eye may lead to some interesting situations.

The Giant insects will be an issue, as some of them have three sexes, most of the dinosaurs have internal testis, so you have another problem there, and of course, all the avians and avian races have them internally, too.

where the balls on a beholder might be I am not really certain I want to get close enough to find out. some things may be a public service, Castrating a male Lamia, or possibly an androsphinx, may be a good thing, but if you are that close to a chimera or a basilisk or a manticore or a Gorgon, just kill it.

cutting the nuts off an orc may be expected, and a kobold can't do much about it anyway. Ogres will regrow their lost bits, so you have a problem with that one. trolls will do that as well. Castrating an elf or dwarf may earn you enemys for life, and castrating a giant seems like a task that will take a lot of time and planning. it is suspected that the drow do this to each other, so it's not exactly a terror.

the effects of Castration on owlbears, hobgoblins and Gnolls have yet to be seen, but I am certain someone will think of something. I kinda think it would be just deserts for the Illathids, (mind flayers) they eat human brains, we cut off thier nuts.

there are some things that don't have nuts as we know them, the shriekers, shambling mounds, and gelatinous cubes for example. or a xorn.

Castrating a lizard man may be a great way to get a little leather coin pouch, but still, having them come after you is a consequence you'll have to deal with yourself.

So, in closing, I have not played in years, but I am curious how your gm would allow this, what alignments you would have to be, and how much value this would be in a melee...

keep us posted, please. I want to read about you actually nutting that catoplebas that's been terrorising the south village...

Eunuchorn.

Eunuchorn (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:32 pm Well, aside from myself, I suspect that anybody gelding a Unicorn would be made to suffer an automatic alignment shift, and there have been a few storys about gelding dragons, one gelding of a minotaur that was really unfinished or really rushed at the end, a centaur, (which was more violent than needed to be, as they blinded the poor thing too) Gelding a Pegasus may take a lot of planing to catch one first, and of course, the thought of wandering through the monster manual with a cutters eye may lead to some interesting situations.

The Giant insects will be an issue, as some of them have three sexes, most of the dinosaurs have internal testis, so you have another problem there, and of course, all the avians and avian races have them internally, too.

where the balls on a beholder might be I am not really certain I want to get close enough to find out. some things may be a public service, Castrating a male Lamia, or possibly an androsphinx, may be a good thing, but if you are that close to a chimera or a basilisk or a manticore or a Gorgon, just kill it.

cutting the nuts off an orc may be expected, and a kobold can't do much about it anyway. Ogres will regrow their lost bits, so you have a problem with that one. trolls will do that as well. Castrating an elf or dwarf may earn you enemys for life, and castrating a giant seems like a task that will take a lot of time and planning. it is suspected that the drow do this to each other, so it's not exactly a terror.

the effects of Castration on owlbears, hobgoblins and Gnolls have yet to be seen, but I am certain someone will think of something. I kinda think it would be just deserts for the Illathids, (mind flayers) they eat human brains, we cut off thier nuts.

there are some things that don't have nuts as we know them, the shriekers, shambling mounds, and gelatinous cubes for example. or a xorn.

Castrating a lizard man may be a great way to get a little leather coin pouch, but still, having them come after you is a consequence you'll have to deal with yourself.

So, in closing, I have not played in years, but I am curious how your gm would allow this, what alignments you would have to be, and how much value this would be in a melee...

keep us posted, please. I want to read about you actually nutting that catoplebas that's been terrorising the south village...

Eunuchorn.

Um, first of all, I was actually thinking of castration for humans/dwarfs/elves, and the actual effects thereof. Second I gm more games than I play.

I thought there should be a game called "Dungeons and Dragqueens".

tugon (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:12 pm I thought there should be a game called "Dungeons and Dragqueens".

HE-HE-HE I like that idea....a lot. --FLO--

I only ever got to play this a few times and never long enough to fully learn the rules and lingo. I never know which damn dice to use or how to do mostly anything and people usually make fun of my characters. lol. My last one was a cleric named Basil at a gay themed D&D group years ago they didn't like him and let him die...sigh. My dream D&D game would be to have a high level character and fight things like Tiamat just to see how I'd do.

Had no idea castration was mentioned in the game anywhere..do the rules say that you can geld things and use the sacks a coin purse??? wow

Tilt (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:20 pm I only ever got to play this a few times and never long enough to fully learn the rules and lingo. I never know which damn dice to use or how to do mostly anything and people usually make fun of my characters. lol. My last one was a cleric named Basil at a gay themed D&D group years ago they didn't like him and let him die...sigh. My dream D&D game would be to have a high level character and fight things like Tiamat just to see how I'd do.

Had no idea castration was mentioned in the game anywhere..do the rules say that you can geld things and use the sacks a coin purse??? wow

I think you're reading it a little wrong. The rules DON'T cover those things. I am trying to MAKE rules for it. (although for turning sacks into coin purses Craft: Tanning or Leatherwork or Profession: Tanner skills probably cover it.

I was a Dungeon Master for ten years long, long ago. Most roleplayers today probably play online in World of Warcraft.

noxmagnus (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:59 pm Um, first of all, I was actually thinking of castration for humans/dwarfs/elves, and the actual effects thereof. Second I gm more games than I play.

Humans we know the effects on. indeed, some fantasy setting see it as a requirement for magecraft, the Eunuch Calm being the only way to get spells done without them blowing up on you.

Elves and Dwarfs are Demi-Humans. Elves might volunteer.

Dwarves are an interesting case. Dwarfs, if the ecology posted in the dragon magazine is any indication, have a low female birth rate. you don't see many of them on adventures because they are making more dwarfs. the dwarfs you do see are mostly males. whether they may have a solemn ritual where they sacrifice their nuts is up to you. they may do so to not taint the rest of the group.

then of course, there are halflings, and hobbits, and if you are playing certain flavors of D&D, you have Gully dwarfs. those, most other races will not have a problem castrating. each may have it's own rituals for the deed.

I would think that Castration in a D&D setting would be used on slaves, apprentice wizards, and perhaps captives. so, that leaves Slavers, which probably are not good, and wizards whom may be questionably good, and of course, hard line clerics, who may castrate themselves for the glory of their god, and to lessen their own temptation.

(as a silly aside, One Dm used an innovative way to make sure his huge expensive jewel was not stolen from his statue. instead of the eye, the statue was turned around, showing the butt. the gem was called the Moonstone. you look at it, and you were mooned....)

Eunuchorn (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:57 pm Humans we know the effects on. indeed, some fantasy setting see it as a requirement for magecraft, the Eunuch Calm being the only way to get spells done without them blowing up on you.

Elves and Dwarfs are Demi-Humans. Elves might volunteer.

Dwarves are an interesting case. Dwarfs, if the ecology posted in the dragon magazine is any indication, have a low female birth rate. you don't see many of them on adventures because they are making more dwarfs. the dwarfs you do see are mostly males. whether they may have a solemn ritual where they sacrifice their nuts is up to you. they may do so to not taint the rest of the group.

then of course, there are halflings, and hobbits, and if you are playing certain flavors of D&D, you have Gully dwarfs. those, most other races will not have a problem castrating. each may have it's own rituals for the deed.

I would think that Castration in a D&D setting would be used on slaves, apprentice wizards, and perhaps captives. so, that leaves Slavers, which probably are not good, and wizards whom may be questionably good, and of course, hard line clerics, who may castrate themselves for the glory of their god, and to lessen their own temptation.

(as a silly aside, One Dm used an innovative way to make sure his huge expensive jewel was not stolen from his statue. instead of the eye, the statue was turned around, showing the butt. the gem was called the Moonstone. you look at it, and you were mooned....)

Well for one, I don't give really any stock to anything in dragon magazine. The feats, spells, etc. Are often overpowered, and the descriptions often don't match up with things in the books... of course the magazine did stretch over 3 editions, and each edition had different backgrounds for races and such. For example in 3rd edition, as given in "Races of Stone" dwarves don't really have such a low female birth rate. (of course as for dwarven adventurers, who wants to play a girl that in some artists rendition has a beard to match any guy?)

Personally I play 3.5 edition D&D, and have no interest in 4e, and no exposure to 1st or 2nd edition. I am trying to put together a mechanic for castrated males (might do one for females to, not sure.) it will probably be a template, but it could be a feat as well.... not sure. Or it might end up as something else entirely.

As for setting material, I hope to make this function in any setting. The setting I personally am working on is highly different from most D&D settings, for example iron is rare, magic is nothing like what it normally is, and there are no elves or dwarves (all races except humans are my own homebrews).

Also you forgot one instance of eunuchs possible in D&D- Asian campaigns are fairly popular these days, which could include palace eunuchs.... also the aforementioned harem guards in Book of Erotic Fantasy, which while eunuchs, don't really fit what I'm looking for.