Deserving Castration

[fhunter]

Personally, I'm tried of paying taxes to keep them in locked up. It would be cheaper just to execute them. Pedophiles and rapists it's about power and most never change their way's so why not make it a capitol crime if the evidence is there.

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With a judicial system that can give false positives - no, thanks.

[nullorchis (imported)]

Lowering prison operation cost is an issue that needs to be addressed.

And of course any amount of punishment is horrendous if the individual is not guilty of anything.

Time and again we learn of people who have been put into prison and they were innocent. Not much effort is spent on establishing whether someone was guilt or innocent after they have died or been executed.

Perhaps an unintended fringe benefit of being castrated, and not using TRT, is a defense against a false accusation of a sexual crime. Not an absolute defense, but certainly any defense is useful when falsely accused. Even though in the US one is suppose to be assumed innocent until proven guilty, it can not be proven that a jury was not mentally handling it the other way around, or that circumstantial evidence makes one appear to be guilty when not guilty. There are of course cases where the end result of evidence that was never witnessed makes one conclude that something did occur. Such as overnight you did not see or hear it rain, and you had no access to news or communications or anyone who saw or heard it rain, but when you get up in the morning everything as far as you can see is wet and water is running down the street curbs. You conclude, without having seen it rain, that it in fact did rain overnight. DNA is that kind of evidence. Thank goodness for DNA, helping to convict the guilty, and protect the innocent.........as long as the DNA lab does their job correctly.

The debate will go on endlessly with good reasoning on all sides; castrate, incarcerate, execute. But never release. Unless of course there is new evidence or new technology that helps to exonerate the convicted.

[tugon (imported)]

If the perp asks for castration so he will not abuse again by all means his request should be granted. I do not feel his sentence should be shortened. Castration will not help the victim. It may reduce the number of future victims when he is released. The victim will struggle most of their life so why make life easier for the abuser.

[_g (imported)]

With a judicial system that can give false positives - no, thanks.

That will always be a problem as many are not looking for justice Just another notch on the pistol handle.

Because, with our system, the endless appeals, it costs more than to simply lock them up for life. Just throw away the key.

The problem is the criminals are not being made to pay back the costs of the victim, being held accountable for the actions. They should be made to work in jail and pay for there own food and if they don't work and make payments to the victim: no food. That would get the lazy ones working or they would just die by their own choice. { I know this is not possible, too many bleeding hearts }

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[tugon (imported)]

That will always be a problem as many are not looking for justice Just another notch on the pistol handle.

The problem is the criminals are not being made to pay back the costs of the victim, being held accountable for the actions. They should be made to work in jail and pay for there own food and if they don't work and make payments to the victim: no food. That would get the lazy ones working or they would just die by their own choice. { I know this is not possible, too many bleeding hearts }

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Remember the punishment is to be seperated from society. Poor or lack of food while incarcerated is torture. I do not advocate for steak dinners but unspoiled food.

As a victim no amount of money would help with the problems childhood incest and adult rape. I cannot speak for all victims but I want no contact or anything from my rapist. I also might be insulted by the price someone would put on the pain.

[nullorchis (imported)]

It is so damn frustrating that we can not forget things we wish we could forget; be that something someone did to us, something that happened to us, or something that we did to ourselves.

And yet we can not remember things we wish we could remember.

Yet another flaw in the human brain.

So many human flaws that we are unable to fix from stealing to murder to pedophilia. Some sexually connected, some not. Though I do tend to think that the world would be a better place if reproduction did not require testosterone.

Intentional artificial insemination would sure solve a lot of problems.

Some wrongs can just never be righted. Prison I view as a way to keep people who intentionally harm other people in a place where they can be prevented from doing harm again. Keeping all such people in prison for life would be fine with me, be their crime financial or physical. In part it is punishment for a dastardly deed, but also to help keep other innocents safe.

[_g (imported)]

Remember the punishment is to be seperated from society. Poor or lack of food while incarcerated is torture. I do not advocate for steak dinners but unspoiled food.

As a victim no amount of money would help with the problems childhood incest and adult rape. I cannot speak for all victims but I want no contact or anything from my rapist. I also might be insulted by the price someone would put on the pain.

I said no work no food, of course the food supplied should be of good quality. But it's the persons choice to work or not, If they do not work they die and its their choice. The state should not give money for people to live off, if the person is able to work.

You are correct, as to the money. But the person has to held responsible for their actions and having to pay the court costs and pay the victim is only fair and should be part of the punishment.

[chemcast scot (imported)]

To pay the court costs is a good idea, but when it comes to paying a victim how would you put a pice on a child who has been abused, or even raped how would paying them help them.

A long time in prison will help to make sure that they do not strike again, and will keep the rest of the community safe, but s someone else said in a post, castrated them but do not let them outr of jail early, he tougher things are for them the better.

[tugon (imported)]

I said no work no food, of course the food supplied should be of good quality. But it's the persons choice to work or not, If they do not work they die and its their choice. The state should not give money for people to live off, if the person is able to work.

You are correct, as to the money. But the person has to held responsible for their actions and having to pay the court costs and pay the victim is only fair and should be part of the punishment.

At the risk of going too far off topic most prisons assign offenders jobs. They are not paid but receive a small monthly stipend of about $12 a month. Prison budgets would be out of control if the offenders made enough money to pay court costs or money to victims.

[chemcast scot (imported)]

I dont honestly see why prisons should pay prisoners any amount of money, even if it is only $12 a month but if that money was not paid, then how mutch could be taken off the prison budget.