Thanks for coming to my rescue tjstill.

I still hadn't 'got it', had I? But I'm catching on now! The abbreviation i.e. means id est, 'that is'. (I just checked my Oxford Dictionary) IE. apparently stands for Indo-European. :-\

its amazing how quickly a topic can go so off topic on here!

lets get back to my original posting!

are there other guys appart from myself and Riven who are into extreme cock mods, and have any?