Hi Truly committed,

You're right of course, about Ch4 and the BBC, but it is salient to point out that the Beeb also funds a great deal of what Ch4 churns out. S4C (the Welsh version of Channel Four) has many of its news and documentary programmes funded ENTIRELY by the BBC, this is why they do simulcasts in Welsh with the BBC on occasions (such as Live8 and Children in Need).

Added to which, a friend tells me that BBC world is looking into showing the unedited version of the Ch4 doc (in North America).

I don't know how the funding panned out on this doc but the Beeb is certainly not unknown to part-fund this type of doc.

I always think it's a bit odd that the Beeb has its fingers in Ch4 pies, since their remit is so different but, hey, maybe that's the way that the BBC do 'investigative journalism' these days, since they don't seem to do it much on their own channels!

mm thats intresting....

actually come to think of it......some channel 4 programs (graham norton) are shown or have been on bbc america.......

so i think you are right

clever clogs....

hey , u mean no one likes to dress up like a cute cheerleader and dance?

Its only me? I dont believe that!!!!!!!! and yeh im male

truly committed (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:45 am mm thats intresting....

actually come to think of it......some channel 4 programs (graham norton) are shown or have been on bbc america.......

so i think you are right

clever clogs....

hey , u mean no one likes to dress up like a cute cheerleader and dance?

Its only me? I dont believe that!!!!!!!! and yeh im male

Sorry TC, that sounded really arrogant the way I posted it, wasn't meant that way!

A very interesting fact about Ch4 is that nearly all of their documentaries are bought in from private production companies who just sell to the highest bidder. A funny fact about this is that one of their favourite companies is Hardcash Productions and the guy who set up and runs Hardcash used to be a BBC journalist working on Panorama-type programming, he left because the Beeb kept on pulling his funding right in the middle of him making them a programme!! Now he sells most of the docs his company makes to Ch4! (Good for him!! I fully support that, the Beeb used to do this type of thing really well but nowadays they're mostly interested in conning us viewers out of 'phone money methinks!)

Speaking of Graham Norton, you're right there, but then the BBC pinched him altogether so now he's one of theirs which presumably lessens the amount of syndication money they have to shell out!

PS Even though I wouldn't personally want to wear a cheerleaders costume, I'm all for seeing you in one!

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe one day u will!!!!!!!!

Dont worry it didnt come across as arrogant, you know what-i like you guys here...

some of you anyway