I worked at a group home for mentally retarded adults until last year(and before anyone comes after me for using the "R" word, that's what my state and the agencies who support the group homes call it; other states have different lingo). We had a resident named "Tim" (not his real name) who was mentally retarded, had cerebral palsy, was hearing impaired, and had "sexual behaviors", which is why his family placed him with us. He was on a walker for many years after surgery on his legs, and was thus unable to get into and out of the bath alone, but he could bathe without assistance once his was in the tub. The first time I helped him into the bath, I was SHOCKED that he had a micropenis. It's a very startling thing to see if you're not expecting it. He and another male resident had a long-running, consensual sexual relationship. I often wondered if testosterone issues caused his sexual acting-out before he came to us, or if they contributed to the fits of rage he was given to years before. He had once hit a two-year-old niece due to jealousy, and broke her mother's thumb when she tried to intervene. He was on estrogen for several years at on time, and I wonder if it was used as some form of chemical castration.

curious_guy (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:48 pm Does testosterone directly make the penis grow or does it cause more frequent erections which make the penis grow?

Excellent question...and I think one that's not easy to answer. I'll give it a try. The penis is an organ without bone structure that's hard to define...and even measure accurately. We typically speak of two sizes: flaccid and hard (erect or aroused). Flaccid should be when it's most relaxed. The problem with measuring flaccid size is that it can still vary. A cock that's 20% aroused still looks pretty flaccid. Most guys give erect size, measured on the top from the penile base, when asked how large their penis is?

In any event, maybe you're asking about flaccid and aroused sizes. I can only say for myself that my flaccid size seems to have grown about 1/2" and the erect size by about 1" since I began testosterone ingestion from external sources a little over 5 years ago. The testosterone seems to have made no difference in girth.

Supposedly, hypnotic suggestion can cause the male organ to grow in some persons. I guess everybody has seen the spam ads about growth formulas, and some websites claim that yohimbe, an extract from a bark found in Africa, can also cause the organ to grow, or at least to become larger when erect.

Most women, according to what you read, are more concerned with firmness than with size, as long as the organ is at least five inches long or so, and proportionately thick.