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Shabbube, you're one of the few who's had any success with using bistournage on a human. The method is described, for veterinary medicine, on pages 58-67 of Animal Castration by A. Liautard, M.D., V.M., edition of 1902. As it is out of copyright, this book is available on Google as a free PDF or ePub. To describe what the hell happened to your left testicle, I shall quote:
In this mode of operating, principally in vogue in the southern parts of France, the position of the testicle is so changed that its lower extremity is made to take the place of the upper, the cord is subjected to a certain degree of torsion, and then the testicle is restored to its normal position, to undergo a process of atrophy which destroys its power of secretion by a physiological action. The great length of the cord and the greater laxity of the cellular tissue situated between the dartos and the fibrous coat, render this operation much easier in the ruminants than in the solipeds. Simple in its manipulations, although still involving a certain degree of dexterity, and followed by comparatively no symptoms of reactive fever, the only instrument necessary for its performance is a piece of cord, twine, or rubber, sufficiently strong to secure the testicular envelopes when the gland has been subjected to the double displacement, and the cord to the torsion it has undergone. In this operation, no special preparation being demanded, the animal is usually treated on his feet.If you have any insight on how you got it to work, you may have just dethroned calchlorin injections as the cheapest and safest DIY method in use on the Archive.
What the hell has happened to my left testicle?
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Re: What the hell has happened to my left testicle?
ZeuterMe (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:22 pm http://www.wordnik.com/words/bistournage
Shabbube, you're one of the few who's had any success with using bistournage on a human. The method is described, for veterinary medicine, on pages 58-67 of Animal Castration by A. Liautard, M.D., V.M., edition of 1902. As it is out of copyright, this book is available on Google as a free PDF or ePub. To describe what the hell happened to your left testicle, I shall quote: If you have any insight on how you got it to work, you may have just dethroned calchlorin injections as the cheapest and safest DIY method in use on the Archive.
I will describe in as much detail as i can what i did.
At first i layed in bed, this is in southern californias hot weather during the month of march im young etc. Now i lay in my bed only with my underware. I am under the sheets i stay there for 5 minutes and its quite hot so my skin is elastic and stretched out. I grab my left teste with my right hand and keep my left on my inner thigh for comfort. My left testicle is in my palm and fingers wrap around it. Now this may be difficult to understand but basically i want you to imagine a boiled egg in a ziplock bag. I twist the "boiled egg" inside the ziplock bag without twisting the scrotum itself. This takes some finese as it took me 40 minutes of having to reset because the damn thing kept popping back into its original confortable position. But eventually i am able to rotate it around once from there its easier i get it maybe 3 times in total. Note. I AM able to continue as at this point its easier to twist but the pain is bad not level 10 bad but bad enough that i was shaking from pain and my morale was broken to continue. I felt it was not neccesary to continue. I leave it in that position and do not move. You may if you feel paranoid about it untwisting to use tape. I leave it like that overight. At about 19 hours i become worrid after reading about gangreen happening should it be cut off from oxygen too long and try to twist it back. The following days continue like this. I believe i woke up and it was swolled to about ohhhh maybe double the size. This remains constant for 5 days. After that swelling increases to the size of a grape fruit. This remains that size for around 10 days. Uncomfortable but not painful maybe a 2 MAAAAYBE a 3 when i needed to adjust it. I want to say this. It is tricky. It is however, possible. if need be i will post pictures of the method elsewhere and like how i did it with either human analog (egg and ziplock) or my one working testicle if i havent repeated the same process to it tonight. I will say that your sac does get sore almost raw feeling at 20 minutes. So breaks if neccessary. I hope i explained myself properly as english is a second language. If you would like i can try and picture my atrophied testicle if youd like to inspect it for whatever reason
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Re: What the hell has happened to my left testicle?
Hash (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:11 pm Leave the atrophied testicle alone, it's not producing much if any testosterone. If you continue to inject the remaining testicle, the likely result will be another atrophied testicle. Then you can go to the urologist and ask him or her to remove them and they will since they're atrophied. Atrophied testicles do not produce as much testosterone as they did before they atrophied. The very word means that the organ has withered and effectively stopped functioning. Only a 10% chance of it ever recovering. Most of the time the remaining testicle will enlarge because it begins to take over the work load of the atrophied testicle. Sometimes body builders who use steroids end up with atrophied testicles (not abused testicles) and sometimes in these cases their doctor will give them injections of HCG hormone to try to stimulate the atrophied testicle back to normal. It these cases there is more success, but not if you've abused your testicles. I abused my testicles, one atrophied and my doctor tried HCG but it did not work and seldom does when a testicle has been abused.
If you could can you please describe how you abused it to the point of atrophy
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Re: What the hell has happened to my left testicle?
shabbube (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:03 pm I will describe in as much detail as i can what i did.
At first i layed in bed, this is in southern californias hot weather during the month of march im young etc. Now i lay in my bed only with my underware. I am under the sheets i stay there for 5 minutes and its quite hot so my skin is elastic and stretched out. I grab my left teste with my right hand and keep my left on my inner thigh for comfort. My left testicle is in my palm and fingers wrap around it. Now this may be difficult to understand but basically i want you to imagine a boiled egg in a ziplock bag. I twist the "boiled egg" inside the ziplock bag without twisting the scrotum itself. This takes some finese as it took me 40 minutes of having to reset because the damn thing kept popping back into its original confortable position. But eventually i am able to rotate it around once from there its easier i get it maybe 3 times in total. Note. I AM able to continue as at this point its easier to twist but the pain is bad not level 10 bad but bad enough that i was shaking from pain and my morale was broken to continue. I felt it was not neccesary to continue. I leave it in that position and do not move. You may if you feel paranoid about it untwisting to use tape. I leave it like that overight. At about 19 hours i become worrid after reading about gangreen happening should it be cut off from oxygen too long and try to twist it back. The following days continue like this. I believe i woke up and it was swolled to about ohhhh maybe double the size. This remains constant for 5 days. After that swelling increases to the size of a grape fruit. This remains that size for around 10 days. Uncomfortable but not painful maybe a 2 MAAAAYBE a 3 when i needed to adjust it. I want to say this. It is tricky. It is however, possible. if need be i will post pictures of the method elsewhere and like how i did it with either human analog (egg and ziplock) or my one working testicle if i havent repeated the same process to it tonight. I will say that your sac does get sore almost raw feeling at 20 minutes. So breaks if neccessary. I hope i explained myself properly as english is a second language. If you would like i can try and picture my atrophied testicle if youd like to inspect it for whatever reason
If I may ask, what's your first language? I suppose it's really only relevant if you can tell me what Liautart meant by "Point d'Appui" - I think that translates as "fulcrum". What it sounds like is that you managed a bistournage castration with patience and repeating your work, where a horse or cow has enough room and tissue to fold the cord back on itself, and then tie things in place with some string.
The third step, or that of the torsion of the cord, now presents itself to our notice. To effect this, the “testicle must be firmly held at the bottom of the envelopes (Fig. 19), the left hand placed forward upon the cord, and the right behind and upon the testicle. The operator then gives to the organ a twist with the right hand by a motion of rotation from left to right and from without inwards, while with the other he draws upon the cord in the opposite direction. The result of this manipulation is to give to the gland half a turn around the cord (Fig. 20), which thus becomes displaced and takes a posterior position.
By a change in the action of the hands, but a repetition of the same movement, the right hand now acting on the cord, while the left is applied to the testicle, the remaining portion of the motion of rotation is performed, and a complete torsion of the spermatic support accomplished. By repeating this action, of course as many turns of the cord as may be thought necessary, can be secured, two, however, being generally found sufficient, although, in a few instances as many as four or five may be required—never more than that. The length of the cord is the principal controlling circumstance.
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Re: What the hell has happened to my left testicle?
My first languge is armenian but my best is english so i couldnt tell you what it means unfortunately