does strike me that those 2 cops were somewhat assholes. a sense of humor'd be a good thing to have.

punkypink (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:43 am does strike me that those 2 cops were somewhat assholes. a sense of humor'd be a good thing to have.

Oh, I didn't say they weren't assholes. I think the moral of the story is, don't fuck with assholes who have power.

But that was just my takeaway.

Still, I think the cops thought it was funny.

Cainanite (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:31 am don't fuck with assholes who have power.

That, i can agree with!

i guess you have never been in rural washington state

when you get pulled over you keep your mouth shut and i believe that would happen in rural canada

I have received 4 tickets in my life and fought them all in court and beat them all as they were all speed traps and used old out of date radar guns.

Losethem (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:28 am Cainanite, I like you, but I'm having trouble believing that story. I don't think the cops would dismantle a car out in public. If they wanted to perform that kind of search with destruction to an innocent civilians private property, they would need to impound the car and serve a warrant. At least here in the US they would or they would be asking for one damn hefty lawsuit for abuse of authority.

--LT

I have had a few encounters with folks in the "law and justice cartel," not all of which have been all that enjoyable.

One attorney made up a stack of outright lies about me, with the trivial result that the cost of dealing with the stack of lies cost us our intended retirement home through bankruptcy foreclosure.

A police officer confabulated a lie about me, with the result that I informed the prosecutor that, were I to enter a plea, I would plead contempt of court; the judge said, in effect, "I find you guilty based on clear and convincing evidence." yet there was no witness testimony in court to the effect that I had violated anything; and I have two transcripts of the trial with, on a critical issue, have effectively opposite words and meaning. The officer's confabulation had me doing something I know, without error, was physically absolutely impossible, and the judge convicted me of doing the impossible.

So, I have a professional concern regarding the adversarial system because I, as a matter of conscience, reject the notion that adversarial process can ever result in justice.

I also find that my being licensed as a Registered Professional Engineer, and my being so licensed mandating that, in my holding paramount the pubic safety pursuant to the Code of Ethics of the National Society of Professional Engineers, mandating that I do all in my power to design and build an actually honest and actually safe system of law and law enforcement makes, from within the adversarial system, my work in bioengineering and the adversarial system as though adversaries from any adversarial process I can yet imagine, yet my bioengineering approach and its ethical standards require that I regard the adversarial system as not an adversary. To date, I seem to have no observable success in approaching the adversarial system in an amicus curiae manner.

I wonder why? (Yeah, that is cyincal...)

curious1111 (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:07 am i guess you have never been in rural washington state

when you get pulled over you keep your mouth shut and i believe that would happen in rural canada

I have received 4 tickets in my life and fought them all in court and beat them all as they were all speed traps and used old out of date radar guns.

What do you know I to have had 4 tickets in my life, I deserved every one of them although the one I got in the central valley of California clocked by the bear in the air was the only one that pissed me off, you see they got 15 of us, I was first in line and the last to get the ticket, I was an hour late for work.

River

I've gotten 2 tickets in my life and I can honestly say I didn't deserve them. I can think of instances where I would have deserved it if I'd been ticketed, but those 2 times weren't it.