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Re: Deserving Castration

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:26 am
by KimiRhoze (imported)
chemcast scot (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:59 pm I might be wrong but i would think that there will be soe sort of clause in his release papers, that after he was castrated that he will not be able to get any testerone.

And that this could be put on his medica; records so that he will not be able to get it from any doctor, but i guess he could buy it from the internet, but by doing this he might be taken back to prison.

But that is only my thoughts as i dont know how the criminal justice system works in the USA, but if i am wrong then someone will put me right i hope.

Criminal justice system in the USA is a joke :P It's more about making more money for the state than it is about criminal reform, not to mention the stupid stuff people goto jail for.

Re: Deserving Castration

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:39 am
by nullorchis (imported)
How "mainstream" America views most everything is frightening.

The "justice" system is nothing more than egotistical competition between prosecutors and attorneys. I think of it more as a tragedy than a joke; or if it is a joke, it is a very bad one.

Maybe, hopefully, the perv who was castrated and let loose back into the public at lease has to have regular and frequent blood tests to ensure that he is not ramping up his testosterone. And that the neighborhood is forewarned of his presence.

On the serious side, I feel worse for those who have been affected by him, past, present, and future, but I also feel sad for him. Probably through no fault of his own he wound up harming others, and ruined his own life. Whether it was a chemical, hormonal, mental, environmental, upbringing issue, or several issues, how horribly tragic that this happened to him, and to so many others. Makes me wish I could wave a magic wand to eliminate this condition in everyone, now, and for all time. We can not prevent or correct that which we just do not understand. If we could prevent or fix this condition and did not do so, then society would be to blame. But since that is not an option, the only tragic option is to protect society by preventing such mis-wired persons from coming into free open contact with society. It is a horrible thing to do, but not as horrible as putting someone else at risk of being harmed.

Re: Deserving Castration

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:41 am
by chemcast scot (imported)
Well thanks for the insite to the criminal justice system over there, infact it sounds a bit like over here, they care more about the criminals rights than the safty of those who live in the wider community.

I would say that yous have a lot tougher sentancing system than we do, over here a few years ago a pedo who abused children and had a stash of over 15o child porn images, stated at the worst possible, was only give 2 yrs in prison, so maybe castration is a good thing for them.

And the ointering of them in the community over here is what you would call a joke, the only way to get information on there here, is if they will have contact with any of your children or grandchildren.

Re: Deserving Castration

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:50 am
by Batman (imported)
I think in the cases like these pedophiles should be put out of our misery. I think if you throw away your dog or cat (puppies or Kittens) in a bag at the side of the road you should be put out of our misery.

In the case of pedophiles, they do permanent damage to their victims, they rob the children of something they can never get back. Same with people who abuse animals that they are supposed to take care of and love.

Gets my blood boiling.....sorry

Re: Deserving Castration

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:49 am
by chemcast scot (imported)
BATMAN, All i can say here is i totaly agree with every word that you said on here, ovr here you get a longer sentence if you do anything to an animal, compaired to what they get for doing anything to a child.

Re: Deserving Castration

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:32 pm
by SplitDik (imported)
Sweetpickle (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:56 pm It's not hard to find a doctor who will prescribe anything you want that has to do with sex.

You don't need a doctor, you can get all the testosterone you want by ordering online. Where do you think all the guys at the gym, and all the buffed celebs are getting their "juice" from?

Regarding castration and sexual predators: testosterone does in fact cause sexual urges as well as violent urges, risk-taking urges, and urge to dominate others. So even the "mental" aspects of sex predators are affected by testosterone. However, it is also true that once a brain has operated in the predator mode for decades, the reduction of testosterone isn't going to fully eliminate the dangerous modes of thinking. I think castration is a reasonable attempt towards a cure, as long as it is not assumed to be fully effective.

Re: Deserving Castration

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:37 am
by nullorchis (imported)
Anyone who abuses another person (mentally, physically, emotionally, financially, sexually, etc.) just needs to be removed from society. They forfeit their right to be free.

However, to be fair, society should first offer free castration surgery to every male. We know that too much testosterone creates in the male natural urges that in the wild are necessary for survival of the species. Sexual activity is forced upon us by nature. Men should have the opportunity to have their sperm collected, frozen, and then be castrated, and be provided with a maintenance level of testosterone.

Any male who refuses free castration, or who acquires and abuses use of testosterone, and who then abuses another person, should be locked behind bars for life. They had their chance to avoid nature's curse so they accepted responsibility for good behavior and if they violate that responsibility, away they go, for good.

Abuse will still happen from 1st timers, or from those who go undetected and unreported; but eventually their actions will be discovered. Voluntary castration should be as easy and affordable to get as voluntary sterilization.

Re: Deserving Castration

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:03 am
by Hash (imported)
IEunuch, I think there's some truth in what you've said, however, there are many MtF Transsexuals who also get castrated to remove testosterone from their systems. I'm thinking that these MtF's would probably not be regarded as pedophiles.

Re: Deserving Castration

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:27 pm
by _g (imported)
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hazbalz (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:07 am pedophiles get off through manipulating their
nullorchis (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:37 am victims and exerting their will over them.

Anyone who abuses another person (mentally, physically, emotionally, financially, sexually, etc.) just needs to be remov
ed from society. They forfeit their right to be free.

Personally, I'm tried of paying taxes to keep them in locked up. It would be cheaper just to execute them. Pedophiles and rapists it's about power and most never change their way's so why not make it a capitol crime if the evidence is there.

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Re: Deserving Castration

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:42 pm
by kristoff
_g (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:27 pm Personally, I'm tried of paying taxes to keep them in locked up. It would be cheaper just to execute them. Pedophiles and rapists it's about power and most never change their way's so why not make it a capitol crime if the evidence is there.

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Because, with our system, the endless appeals, it costs more than to simply lock them up for life. Just throw away the key.