Is Self-Castration Insanity?

[twaddler (imported)]

"Hey look, I’

m completely free of the need for women.

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Say what? lol.

[micropenis (imported)]

Nope. It is not.

Life, liberty and the pursuite of happiness. If it makes you happy and does no harm to anyone else, you should be free to make the choice. Is the pursuite of happiness insane?

The insanity is not being able to have it done safely by a qualified doctor.

[mrt (imported)]

I think we all tend to think that "normal" is not definable. What a great question and one so difficult to answer. Is there an Abnormal in the world? Abnormal is often confused with evil and the other way around. Was Hitler abnormal? Or Evil? Is wanting to have sex with kids abnormal or evil? Is Charles Manson or his "family" abnormal or evil. In all these cases I think we would like to think that its not a choice (Evil) but some sort of serious mental issue that makes a person capable of doing these horrific acts. I think there ARE evil people in the world. I'm not 100% sure they would all agree they are Evil as I think some really bad people can "normalize" their own behavior. Having lived with some people who have mental illness and who have a medical reason to act "abnormal" I think the issue is not Evil but being "abnormal." ie some kind of brain chemistry etc.

Cutting off your testicles to control your urges might well be perfectly sane. I cite for example those that have urges to have sex with kids and don't want those urges to allow them to hurt other. "normal" and noble I think. Those that truly are obsessed with sex and wish some kind of calm so they can function. But in these cases are there less drastic solutions? I think its worth looking into them before laying down on the operating table for a solution that can't be taken back. Transexuals who are female and want to remove the male parts? Sane...

But on the other end (And extreme) - people like that idiotic UFO cult (Heavens Gate) that thought only neutered males who killed themselves could enter the UFO Mothership? Ahh.... truly 100% totally fucking INSANE ....

And then there are those that are just misinformed. Those that think the act of castration is some ultimate sexual high. Or that are sure that its just about sex drive and that it will only give them control over their urges and not have any other baggage. I include those that think that doing this yourself is easy or safe. It may not be "insanity" but its sure as hell stupid and dangerous.

[SplitDik (imported)]

I wouldn't call it insanity, but I would call it mental illness. I would call any impulse to endanger your health (for some ideal that is in conflict with your natural form) a mental illness. Including eating disorders, plastic surgery, other body image problems, etc.

This doesn't mean that the impulse is not common or even "normal", but I do think that it is unhealthy. Many normal things can be unhealthy -- unhealthy does not mean abnormal.

Castration and castration attempts can create physical health problems (I've had multiple surgeries to undo damage I've done to my genitals, and now live with constant pain), and it can create a huge amount of stress/anxiety over years of coming to terms with the desperate urge, etc.

The healthy thing would be to be comfortable in ones own, original body, and we simply aren't.

[punkypink (imported)]

The insanity is not being able to have it done safely by a qualified doctor.

Not even.

We as humans do a great many things in life that are risky. Why do we do it? Because we enjoy it. Maybe to you, it seems insane if genital modification is not done by a qualified doctor, but really, it is just a calculated risk. If one is able to find an experienced cutter who just does not have paper qualifications, is it as insane as say going to a qualified doctor who does not have the experience? Qualified doctors are not known for making no errors.

Qualified doctors are also not known for doing something like penectomy in the exact way you might wish it done. Like I said, its no more insane than any amount of other things humans do for enjoyment, such as racing cars, flying stunt planes, jumping Las Vegas fountains etc.

[chilliwilli (imported)]

Albert Einstein once said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

So...perhaps the final, absolute act of liberating oneself of a miserable set testicles may infact be sanity!

Nursing a wounded knee (the result of chasing a woman down a snow covered mountain I had no business being on!)

chilli

[mrt (imported)]

Not even.

We as humans do a great many things in life that are risky. Why do we do it? Because we enjoy it. Maybe to you, it seems insane if genital modification is not done by a qualified doctor, but really, it is just a calculated risk. If one is able to find an experienced cutter who just does not have paper qualifications, is it as insane as say going to a qualified doctor who does not have the experience? Qualified doctors are not known for making no errors.

Qualified doctors are also not known for doing something like penectomy in the exact way you might wish it done. Like I said, its no more insane than any amount of other things humans do for enjoyment, such as racing cars, flying stunt planes, jumping Las Vegas fountains etc.

Thats all true but the older I get the more I realize just how short our lives really are. And how damn dumb we can be with the time we have. Anything that cuts it short for no reason?

I don't know if its insane to have a non doctor do surgery but we lost a good friend here (DonFL) who was a medical student who botched his own self castration. Technically he should have known the basics of how. Was it smart doing it on himself? No. Insane? We won't ever really know that for sure.

The people at the hospital tried to fix him up and he died on the table. I think the idea behind the therapists letters is two fold. I really think it is worthwhile seeing a professional to talk this out

before laying down on the operating table.

Even people with "mainstream" reasons like transgendered folks or people dealing with Orchialgia etc can go over things so that when they turn on the IV there are no second thoughts / regrets. For those (As an example) upset about a failed relationship or are self lothing because they are gay a good therapist can work with them to see that this is probably not a solution.

And if the people doing it really are doctors you have a fair idea they "ought" to know what they are doing and know (at least) how to maintain a sterile area. And practice makes perfect in any job. I wanted my surgeon to have done Orchiectomies a LOT before I let him do mine. I would not want any Amateur "Whats THIS?" hacking away on me.