You know this thread reminds me of a old song,

The Merry Minuet

Intro:

There are days in my life when everything is dreary

I grow pessimistic, sad and world weary.

But when I'm tearful and fearfully upset

I always sing this merry little minuet:

They're rioting in Africa

They're starving in Spain

There's hurricanes in Florida

And Texas needs rain.

The whole world is festering

With unhappy souls

The French hate the Germans,

The Germans hate the Poles

Italians hate Yugoslavs

South Africans hate the Dutch

And I don't like anybody very much

But we can be grateful

And thankful and proud

That man's been endowed

With a mushroom shaped cloud

And we know for certain

That some happy day

Someone will set the spark off

And we will all be blown away

They're rioting in Africa

There's strife in Iran

What nature doesn't do to us

Will be done by our fellow man.

And that about sums it up, because some things never change.

River

Ernie of Maine (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:15 pm Moi you do realize the weather moves west to east and it is the mountains that backs up the smog. Your mountains. Ernie

YES, and the Coastal Range with the Sierra Nevada range make the central valley one big smog pit. Inversion layer between the two ranges. I wish they would zone the whole valley agricultural. Babies born in Bakersfield are literally discharged from the Hospital with an asthma inhaler system.

And even the coast areas, once havens of clean air are <gasp> <wheeze>.

Unfortunately, the newest University of California campus is in Modesto.

OMG.

Breathers need not apply.

Yes, the central valley, lived in Modesto for years, had a house right on the outskirts of town, now that house is in the middle of the city, when we moved there it had 40,000 people now, ? , but that was 25 years ago. Left there about 15 years ago.

Today I live back in the country, the two towns I live between each have about 10,000 people. Its to crowded time to move north a bit more, less people more clean air.

River.

Its raining in San Diego! Up tell yesterday this was the 2nd driest year on record for us.

Yup, raining here too, north of San Diego and South of L.A.



Unfortunately so much of our turf is paved over most of it flows to the ocean rather then feeding the water table.

BTW the smog cloud does have a way of, growing, like manifest destiny.

Areas once considered safe clean air areas such as Palm Springs, Elsinore now get it too.

moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:49 pm Yup, raining here too, north of San Diego and South of L.A.

And now it is raining here in Kingman Arizona also...

By any chance, did you leave a bag or two of redi-mix out there where it is getting soaked?

moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:49 pm Yup, raining here too, north of San Diego and South of L.A.



Unfortunately so much of our turf is paved over most of it flows to the ocean rather then feeding the water table.

BTW the smog cloud does have a way of, growing, like manifest destiny.

Areas once considered safe clean air areas such as Palm Springs, Elsinore now get it too.

Moi the air is clear hear and it was still warm until saturday. Now it is has snowed in Maine. May be it is the trees? Ernie

You know they say San Diego has the best weather in the whole country, only rains about 8 to 10 days a year. I have reletives that live there and every time I have gone there it has been one of those 10 days. Reminds me a lot of Seattle.

The weather that you get called rain when it heads east and somewhere around OK it turns to snow and heads north, Tonight we are going to get our first blizzard of the year.

Temps in the teens, snow, 2 to 4 inches to 2 to 4 ft. you never really know tell its over.

River

Weather person says that San Diego received about an inch of rain today! first real rain in many, many months.

moi621 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:02 pm YES, and the Coastal Range with the Sierra Nevada range make the central valley one big smog pit. Inversion layer between the two ranges. I wish they would zone the whole valley agricultural. Babies born in Bakersfield are literally discharged from the Hospital with an asthma inhaler system.

And even the coast areas, once havens of clean air are <gasp> <wheeze>.

Unfortunately, the newest University of California campus is in Modesto.

OMG.

Breathers need not apply.

It's not in Modesto, it's in Merced. Close by, but still in a different county than Modesto, and the counties in California are huge compared to the east coast.

OH, and living in the valley isn't where the air is bad. That inversion layer is at 2000 - 3000 feet (right where I'm at). You can tell which way is west around here just looking at the needles on the pine trees. The short needles tend to be on the west side of the tree.

I want to leave. I've been back here for 11 months now. When I lived here years ago it was tolerable, now the place has turned into Mexico, and not in a good way.