May I ask you a personal question?

[considering (imported)]

No one who has ever heard these words thinks that anything good is likely to evolve. I'm no exception.

Last evening a friend called from California and after the usual helloshowareyous I got The Question. The manner in which it was framed made me even more cautious as he started with this preface: "Listen, you're one of my best friends, we've never held anything back so I know you won't mind a personal question". At that moment you have one of two answers; A. Don't ask or B. Shoot. A is rude so I bit my tongue and said, "shoot". Here's his question.

"I don't get your having your nuts chopped off but I've thought about it and isn't likely that you got rid of something that you thought wasn't big enough? I mean every guy wants big balls..."

And they want a hot Blondie-sex upon request-to be donkey dicked and permanently 25. That's not reality but I'm reliably informed that's on the short list of what "most guys" want.

Without going into a logical, cogent explanation of my reasons and motivations-which isn't what he wanted anyway-I took the coward's way and said, "I don't know, I've never considered that." But I have. Somewhere in me I probably did have a nano-second of wondering about that but it wasn't even a speed bump on the road to castration. However, he does have a valid point that is worth considering.

It may be that some men are truly obsessed with the size of their genitals. I know of one person who took calipers and took a detailed set of measurements of his testicles, scrotum, penis and perineum. Somewhere there's probably a list of "averages" that considers factors such as weight, height and age and those would have provided his com-parables. It's a dangerous comparison because averages only apply to a wide set of persons and do not have any basis for the person as an individual. This person became distressed because in one measurement he was fractionally not up to the averages. This ate into his soul for years and it really distracted him to the point that it was practically his only concern. He tried pills, pumps, exercises, consulted with physicians and....none of them satisfied him. Nothing he could have done would have but he was beyond that simplistic an answer.

My point in posting this is to wonder if this issue of size, or lack of it, does motivate some people to ponder castration. I would hope not but I fear I'm wrong. Too many years of being in locker rooms or just having talks with people suggests that men do care about size. Penis envy is not confined to women though I suspect that "ball envy" is largely limited to men. It would be distressing to think that some persons have surgically removed their genitals so they would not worry about what they perceived as a lack. This may be the instance that disproves the saying that, "You don't miss what you don't have". Even though my surgery was just over a month ago I still have moments of "missing them" but only in the sense that something that has been part of you for 64 years and is now gone will be missed. I have no regrets but if I'd used as my foundation motivator the issue of my not feeling I was "big enough", I'd have been misguided.

What are your thoughts on this? And for those of you holding a set of calipers and a ruler, I'm particularly interested in your comments.

[Mac (imported)]

I believe that my penis and testicles are about average and I never wished them to be bigger. Actually, I have wished that they were smaller. The guys with the big dicks who try to make you feel inferior are probably insecure. Have you ever thought what it would be like stuffing all of that in your pants? Seems to me like it would be rather uncomfortable and inconvenient.

The penis only serves 2 purposes: sexual intercourse and urination.

As for sexual intercourse, it only has to get big enough and firm enough to be inserted into the vagina. Do you have sexual intercourse frequently enough and with women who are really obsessed with penis size to be burdened with a larger than necessary penis?

As for urination, a penis is not essential. It is only useful for standing and not required for urination. Women have much better flow with less resistance. Actually, when pulling it out through the fly in your pants the flow is even more restricted, you frequently splash on your pants, and frequently get the last squirt in your pants after putting it back. It takes just a few more minutes to pull your pants down and sit but the advantages definately outweigh the disadvantages.

I find it embarrasing if my penis becomes obviously errect in my pants (or creates a noticable bulge in a swimsuit) when out in public. I also find it embarrasing if it becomes errect and presses against my partner when dancing. Thus, I have tucked it to minimize these problems for the last several years.

Be thankful that you are not one of those "Big Dick" guys.

[chilliwilli (imported)]

Mac-

The doc and I were working on a guy (the doc is admitted bi-sexual). The young man had to drop his drawers for something. (hurt himself or had a wound I don't recall.) Anyway as I stood there while he undressed he exposed the most beautiful set of male genitals I have ever seen. (I was a bit envious myself). Well balanced, good size, nice skin, uncut, clean and perfectly demarcated pubic hair he had it all.

I knew the doc would be amazed so I chuckled to myself as I got the doc. The man laid back on the gurney. The doc, who is so sexy(the man's mind is incredible), but physically well...he's about a 3 walks in as I step out of the way. He looked at the young fellow for a minute focused on his genitals as I watched his reaction. He was amazed to say the least.

I always enjoy peoples reaction to beauty and how some marvel at it, some fear it and others try to capture it while still others have no appreciation.

This is the main reason I would never get cut. Simply the physical beauty of intact genitals overrides the ideal body image of lacking balls. I still like to get naked anyway.

"You have the most beautiful pussy" #92 back in "98

chilli-

[coinflipper_21 (imported)]

Are most men, in this country, obsessed with penis size? From conversations that I have had, YES! Does it mean anything? Not really.

According to a Japanese doctor who did a world wide survey on the subject by sending out paper measuring devices to men all over the world that were taped up over an erect penis and removed and mailed back to him, (He received over 50,000 of them back.) the world wide average size of an erect penis is 5 inches. If you have a penis 8 inches or longer you are larger than 99 percent of the men in the world. About one in every 500 men has a porn star penis.

From my experience there is just as big a variation in vagina size as there is in penis size. Some women think they can expand to fit any size penis. Not so. If you have a normal size penis and have intercourse with a woman with a very shallow vagina, or have a large penis and have intercourse with a normal sized woman, you will hurt her and she won't want to have sex with you again. In both men and women sometimes the size of the person is not a reliable indication of the size of their sexual organs.

Our culture seems to have something of a penis size arms race on the brain. I had a conversation with three black men the other day, and they were talking about the way Middle Eastern men seemed to find it so easy to pick up girls at the local clubs. The quote I remember was, "Those Middle Eastern guys have really big dicks. That's why the girls are so crazy about them." These black guys were dead serious and it was all I could do not to fall on the floor laughing. It didn't seem to occur to them that the girls are simply were attracted to men who seem somewhat exotic and have money.

Women use this notion of equating penis size with maleness to control their men. One of the most powerful weapons in a woman's psychological arsenal is to insult the size of her man's penis. I know one couple, married over 30 years, where the wife has constantly told her husband how fortunate he is that she is satisfied with him because no other woman would want him since his penis is so small. This man really believes it, which is part of the reason that he has stayed faithful to his wife all these years. He is a high powered executive, the type of man who has opportunities to bed attractive women all the time, but because he really believes that his penis is sub-standard, has never risked the rejection. I have seen him naked with an erection and he is actually a little larger than average.

Do some men desire castration as a way of opting out of the penis size arms race? I don't doubt it. Penis size is one of our obsessions and worrying about it is probably a major cause of stress since most men don't have enough sexual experience to know any better. I can understand why someone would want to eliminate his sexual desire and possibility of performance so he would be relieved of the stress of competing. As far as balls are concerned, if you are a sexually functioning eunuch, and have any kind of game, you will find many women eager to have sex with you. You're somewhat exotic, it's really kinky, and you can't get them pregnant. Basically, if a lover keeps coming back for more they are satisfied with it. At that point, who cares about the size of your package?:dong:

[mrt (imported)]

I think in my case having a sub par set was part of my problem. I had atrophy that was a bit depressing to me. I was at about 5 mL and this is far from normal in an adult male.

My main purpose in seeking an Orchiectomy was to solve my chronic Orchialgia and this wasn't easy at first to get past the "castration" part. When I got it in my head that my 5mL (nothings) were going to be replaced my Silicone Appliances of a size more suited for a healthy adult male I was MUCH happier to have it done. In fact I would say its been a totally positive experience for me.

For me the cons are minimal since I was on HRT before the surgery am still on it and function pretty well. I had micro balls but not anymore! I was probably sterile before the surgery so thats not changed. I guess the only con is the surgical scars.

[DeaconBlues (imported)]

What are your thoughts on this? And for those of you holding a set of calipers and a ruler, I'm particularly interested in your comments.

Well then you probably do not really want my comments, but then again, maybe I can provide a different point of view or insight on this problem.

First off, I don't think you are required to explain anything, and it is not at all rude for you to respond to that sort of question by saying "No, I really don't feel comfortable discussing my sex life or genitals with anyone except my doctor and my sex partner(s)." I have many friends who I can and sometimes do discuss these things with, but I don't think it is rude to shut down that sort of conversation with anyone who just could not understand your feelings and point of view. Maybe you could very tactfully put it like this: "I just cannot articulate my feelings accurately to another person on this matter, it is sort of like trying to explain the concept of matching colors and tint and hues in interior decoration to someone who is blind and never had ever seen color and tint and hue. Maybe someone else could explain it to you, but I am not that eloquent."

Second, I feel it sort of IS very much like trying to explain color to someone who has always been blind, I am sure a blind person can understand the idea, but I myself could not explain it clearly any more than I could read a Braille print book.

So maybe using that analogy, thinking like a sighted person versus a blind, you could say that the only way he could really understand your point of view is to try a temporary chemical castration. That would probably scare the hell out of him and he would probably drop the subject forever after that.

If for some reason I HAD to learn how to read Braille print, I would probably wear a blindfold for a few days at least so that I could get my mind to think like a blind person. Same goes for castration, you just cannot understand any of the feelings unless you experience them, there is no accurate way to completely convey the experience in words. But at least to all the guys out there with calipers and rulers measuring their anatomies... NO, it is not the size that compelled me to try chemical castration, and size is not really the MAJOR influencing factor for me to consider surgical castration. Size (or lack of it) is a consideration, but no, not really the "big" reason.

[chilliwilli (imported)]

I used to say size does not matter. Having been in the military, jail and nursing work, I've seen many naked men.

Then one day a set of events occured that forever changed my view. "All men are created equal".

I was working with the most beautiful doc, she was a resident, a snob, but a total knock out. A young fellow (22 yrs) was instructed to drop his drawers by the doc. He paniced and said "No way!" as he turned to his mother seated right next to him. The doc immediately became offended if not completelty insulted said something like "What, I see them all the time!". "Now drop your drawers!", she insisted, and he refused. She was such an ass.

So I strolled in after she extracted herself and talked with the fellow. I explained why she needed to examine him. The poor guy turned to his mother with huge sorowful eyes, then reluctantly pulled off his pants. He had a condition called micro-penis. He was smaller than my pinky, from a physical stand point he was a eunuch. His penis was to small to have intercoarse. I completely understood his point of view, could understand how boys may have teased him in the gym and could comprehend why a woman wouldn't want any not part of his condition. He had a penis that, up to this point in life "only a mother could love".

"Life is not fare, it's a disease"

chilli-

[amahl_shukup (imported)]

This may not be relevant, but I'm reminded of a jest I once heard... "The average vagina is 8 or 9 inches deep...and the average erect penis is about 6 inches long. That means in New York City alone, there must be MILES of unused pussy.

[Testman (imported)]

My balls are rather small but I have never wanted them removed. So I disagree with your friend's theory. In fact, even if they were half the size they are now, I actually don't care, just as long as I still have them. But hen again, I have a bigger than average something else, so maybe in my mind that is making up for any insecurities that would normally be there?

PS. still think virtually all men's size insecurities are brought on by women taunting men, either indirectly, or even worse yet, directly.

[nullorchis (imported)]

It's known as envy.

So often we wish we had what we don't have.

More money, better sex, taller, prettier, longer dick, bigger balls.

In the case of money the more the merrier.

But at some point a dick can be too long, and balls can be too big (usually through a medical condition, but don't forget about jungle tribesmen who managed to manipulate their cocks into very long projectiles; even they valued size.

Sexual activity can become a destructive obsession.

One can be too tall.

I would disagree that the penis is only good for intercourse and urination.

It does respond to the human hand, and mouth.

For many it is also a useful tool (if large, attractive and frequently functioning) that directly, though secretly, helps some people get fame and fortune (such as in the movie industry...and other industries). Straight women and gay men who have power and position dole out jobs and other rewards to many a wayward dick. Small ones need not apply. Such is life.