Can fantasy and reality every truly coincide?

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Can fantasy and reality every truly coincide?

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I've been reading wonderful advice on this forum about really thinking through whether one truly wants to be castrated or not.

I've been seeing that one should experiment with chemical castration, and the like. This is all great advice.

Here's my question. IF someone decides after following all the advice, and taking a couple of years with the chemical castration route, etc., then would (in your own opinions of course) it still not be the "right decision" if the person desiring the castration still had sexual fantasies about it?

Is the fact that the fantasy exists mere proof that castration is not the right option for that person, or can a person still have the fantasy of being castrated, and it still be the right decision for them?

I'm having trouble explaining what I'm asking, but I'm hoping that the point gets across enough for the group to answer my question.
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Oh, I get what you are asking. I very much understand you.

Is it possible for you to have a sexual fantasy about castration, and for actual castration to still be your correct path?

That is the conundrum you need to sort out before you choose something permanent.

I, myself still find the thought of castration stimulating. For me the thought is not about submission, or dominance, but about freedom and innocence. Yet, the thought of castration can still be a sexual thought. It can be very confused. Sorting that confusion is essential, and often, chemical castration can be helpful in doing that.

If, while on chemical castration, you still feel surgical castration is the correct path for you, then perhaps it may be. If thoughts of castration go away, and you wonder to yourself why you thought about it at all, then it probably isn't.

Some members talk about masturbating to their fantasy. The closer they get to orgasm, the more the thoughts of castration drive them. As soon as they have had their orgasm, they wonder, "Why was I thinking about that? I don't want to be castrated." In other words, if once you are sexually satisfied, the thoughts go away, then it is probably just a fantasy, and there is nothing wrong with that. Just keep it a fantasy, and enjoy it. Don't make it a reality.

For me, castration can be a sexual fantasy, but once I've had an orgasm, the thoughts of castration and living as a eunuch actually get stronger. I'm much more myself without sexual thoughts at all. They can feel alien to me. I feel very odd when I am sexually aroused. I'm a little different in that I am an asexual, and my sex thoughts are not really directed at anything or anyone. They can be pleasurable, but I do find they interrupt the normal flow of life, and I would not miss them if they were gone. As I already have a very low sex drive, I don't feel things would be that different for me.

Most people talk about controlling a sex drive that they feel is out of control. They feel embarrassed or ashamed that so much of their life is dominated by sex, and sexual thoughts. They want to be able to control themselves, and see castration as a way to do that. Having an overactive sex drive can feel just as damaging as having an almost nonexistent one.

Some people want castration because they feel it will make them a more submissive partner, or a more loving spouse. There are as many reasons for desiring it, as there are members on these forums.

If you are unsure of your reasons or where they come from, then you should not be making such a dramatic and irreversible decision. I went most of my life not knowing why I felt the way I do, and only recently sorted it all out. I've been left with the decision to leave things as they are for the time being, and enjoy myself for who I am, as I am. My sexual feeling don't really interrupt my life that much, nor do I feel guilty or ashamed when they do.

Though I still wish castration for myself, I'm happy to wait until the time is right.

Please tell us more about yourself. You might find that as you do, you'll figure a lot out on your own. Ask us questions too. We'll give it to you honestly.

We'll be happy to help in any way we can.

Cheers,

Cainanite
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Back in high school, I thought for almost 100% certain that I wanted to be completely sexless. Every time I thought about it, it just felt right. Well, I was young and naive then. After years went by, I started to realize that part of the fun was just the thrill of thinking about something taboo and dangerous that I couldn't have. This was really confirmed for me when I decided to try wearing panties just for the hell of it. For the first few days it was the most exciting thing ever, and then after that it just became passe. The excitement had passed, and now I would need to do something else to get that same thrill. This helped me realize that my desires were a lot about that thrill, and that I would actually really miss it if it was gone.

Cainanite gives good advice. If the thoughts remain after the thrill is gone, and you still feel like it it something you really want, pursue it further. If you notice that it's not really exciting anymore once that initial thrill is gone, seriously reconsider. Some fantasies are better left as thrilling secret desires that you tease but do not actually carry out. This is where I would classify mine.

There's a big difference between being excited and thinking "oh, yeah, I totally want this!" where afterward you just go back to your normal life, and actually having it done in real life, where even when you're not thinking about it at all, it's still gone. So think about that. Is it something that you really want to live with, wake up with every morning, go to work with, live with friends and family with every single day for the rest of your life, or just something that you're only really thinking about during excitement-time?
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I once felt over sexed but then I realized that wasn't the case at all.

Yes, I felt guilty after orgasm but then realized if it field good do it,

Life is short, don't waste it on things you don't enjoy, But rather celebrate what you do.

In other words I never had an orgasm I didn't like.
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Like george2u2, I too enjoyed orgasms.

What I did not enjoy was needing them numerous times a day, and numerous other negative impacts on my life that excessive testosterone caused me.

This led me to think early in life about castration as this could get rid of a personal sexuality that was ruining my life.

I never thought of it as a fantasy; I was obsessive compulsive about the need for it.

It seemed only like a fantasy because it was unobtainable.

Fortunately, way too late in life, I discovered Siterone, and spent about a half year using it.

I discovered that reducing my testosterone level caused me to discover a new type of existence that was very good which I had never experienced .

Shortly after that I discovered alcohol injection, and there was never any doubt in my mind that I not only wanted, but needed to do this, in spite of the potential risks involved.

Fortunately all turned out well for me. I do not suggest or recommend this procedure due to potential risks. Each person must judge for themselves.

Unlike george2u2, I would not go back to a life of orgasms. Loosing them, at least for me, has been well worth the loss. I have no regrets.

Unexpectedly with the loss of testosterone my obsessive compulsive need for castration subsided.

I do hope the option to have this done some day does occur, but it is something I no longer have a craving to seek or accomplish.

That's some of my experiences. Do not confuse them with anything that you may or may not experience, past, present, or future.
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What I wonder is if guys who fantasize about castration are still turned on by it after being castrated?
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JockItch (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:21 am What I wonder is if guys who fantasize about castration are still turned on by it after being castrated?

I doubt they're turned on anymore by anything, unless they're on HRT.
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JockItch (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:21 am What I wonder is if guys who fantasize about castration are still turned on by it after being castrated?

I believe the general consensus is that for the first couple weeks or so it's extremely exciting, but then after time goes on it ceases being a thrill and just becomes another part of your life that you're completely used to. The very mental picture of yourself that you have in your head changes, to the point that you don't even notice it anymore because it's just a part of who you are. So no, in general it ceases being a turn-on very shortly after it happens.

Perhaps someone who has actually been castrated can back me up here, but I'm pretty sure that this is what I have heard as being the case more often than not.
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