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I am going to try and gain weight, that should lower the testosterone in my body. Does the more you weigh impact testosterone or it wont matter?
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knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Sat May 26, 2012 6:10 am I am going to try and gain weight, that should lower the testosterone in my body. Does the more you weigh impact testosterone or it wont matter?

NO you will do more damage to your body than just taking anti-androgen's. Over weight persons have problems with fertility, ED, joint problems, diabetes, and FAT makes estrogen.

For more complete risks check out this link: http://www.dietriot.com/stories/overweight.htm

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very close to doing alcohol injections. I hope that really works and is not some kind of myth. Yea I heard soy products help lower testosterone. I probably wont aim at gaining weight then. Maybe I will become a vegan.
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knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Sat May 26, 2012 2:51 pm very close to doing alcohol injections. I hope that really works and is not some kind of myth. Yea I heard soy products help lower testosterone. I probably wont aim at gaining weight then. Maybe I will become a vegan.

First of all the idea of gaining weight to lower T has to be one of the silliest I have heard in a long time, unless you have a ferocious fat fetish. It is true that fat will produce small amounts of Estrogen, and that will eventually lower but not suppress levels of T. But it wouldn't have any significant effect until you entered the sexless realm of the profoundly obese. Think about it a bit. Just go to any gay bar on Bear Night, and you will see lots of very fat, hairy, bearded men with high sex drives. Fat is not a very effective anti-androgen.

Secondly, you are beginning to come across as a flake. You have been bouncing around in various directions, asking the same questions repeatedly and show little evidence of having looked at any of the links posted in response to your questions.

So on the off chance you are not a flake, and you are certain castration is what you want to pursue, I will give you simple easy instructions.

1) Sit down and figure what your goals are, where do you want to end up. Write it down and keep it. Are you just trying to eliminate libido or do you have a sexual castration fetish. You talk of killing your testes so I will assume surgical removal in not a necessity. Take some long looks at what your motivations are, paying particular attention to the fact that on the subject of sex we all lie to ourselves. Will you be satisfied with reducing libido or do you have to permanently kill them

2) You have said you have access to siterone. Use the links you have been given to research the proper dose to achieve chemical castration. Don't start another thread to ask. The info is in the links you have been given. If you don't have access search the EA for buying hormones online. Start taking siterone, starting with a dose about 1/4 the chemical castration dose, then gradually increase in 3 steps to a full dose, 1/4 dose for a week 1/2 for a week then 3/4 for a week then full dose. Stay on that dose for a minimum of six months. Also add a calcium and a vitamin D supplement to maintain your bones. Use those six months to read all of the 1800 posts on the alcohol injection thread. It is not a myth and several people on this site have succeeded.

3) After six months, (not before) sit down again. How do you like the effects of castration. Do you want to continue to make it permanent. At that point you should be familiar with how others have done it. Only then proceed.

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Transward I just want to stop masturbation and the urge I get to do this act, that is all I desire to do.

I am already on Siterone, not a high dose but it has not stopped my urges.
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http://www.dcnutrition.com/miscellaneou ... Number=475

Obesity and Hormone Imbalance

A consistent finding in the scientific literature is that obese men have low testosterone and very high estrogen levels. Central or visceral obesity (pot belly) is recognized as a risk factor for cardiovascular disease and type II diabetes. New findings have shed light on subtle hormone imbalances of borderline character in obese men and often fall within the normal laboratory reference range. Boosting testosterone levels seems to decrease the abdominal fat mass, reverse glucose intolerance, and reduce lipoprotein abnormalities in the serum. Further analysis has also disclosed a regulatory role for testosterone in counteracting visceral fat accumulation. Longitudinal epidemiological data demonstrate that relatively low testosterone levels are a risk factor for development of visceral obesity.

One study showed that serum estrone and estradiol were elevated twofold in one group of morbidly obese men. Fat cells synthesize the aromatase enzyme, causing male hormones to convert to estrogens. Fat tissues, especially in the abdomen, have been shown to literally "aromatize" testosterone and its precursor hormones into potent estrogens.

Eating high-fat foods may reduce free testosterone levels according to one study that measured serum levels of sex steroid hormones after ingestion of different types of food. High-protein and high-carbohydrate meals had no effect on serum hormone levels, but a fat-containing meal reduced free testosterone levels soci4 hours.

Obese men suffer from testosterone deficiency caused by the production of excess aromatase enzyme in fat cells and also from the fat they consume in their diet. The resulting hormone imbalance (too much estrogen and not enough free testosterone) in obese men partially explains why so many are impotent, and suffer from a wide range of premature degenerative diseases.
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knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Sun May 27, 2012 4:33 pm Transward I just want to stop masturbation and the urge I get to do this act, that is all I desire to do.

I am already on Siterone, not a high dose but it has not stopped my urges.

Using castration to stop masturbating is rather like ridding your house of cockroaches with dynamite. While it may well be effective, it is going to have side effects you are not going to like. The hormonal thermostat I referred to in the alcohol thread is your pituitary and hypothalamus glands. They act to maintain a constant hormonal balance in your body. If you lose one testicle they will simply turn the other one up to compensate for the loss from the other. and your blood T levels will not change much. (And no, they will not be higher on one ball, but they won't be that much lower either) For essential systems your body tends to be massively reduntant. You can live quite well with one kidney. Because of that thermostat, trying to just decrease libido partially with antiandrogens is likely to be a failure.

I am a straight male looking for a castration doctor in NYC or anywhere close by. Can someone please let me know what med doctors do castration without any papers.

You came in here asking for a doctor to castrate you, now you just want to reduce your libido. If a doctor had done what you asked, he could be facing a huge malpractice case. If we gave too explicit advice on castrating yourself, we could technically be charged with practicing medicine w/out a license., and the whole EA could be shut down. There is a huge disconnect between your desired outcome and the means you are using to get there. Were I an MD, I would never consent to treat you until you had spent considerable time with a therapist hammering exactly what the outcome you want is and what is the least traumatic way to get there. Till then you are out of control and dangerous.

I would suggest you start w/ #1) above, preferably with a therapist. Figure what exactly you want. A good place to start would be with a Sex addicts Anonymous. If you are near a big city you should be able to find a group.

Since you are already taking siterone, you could try to increase to dose gradually to see if that will accomplish what you want.

Another possibility is to see your regular doctor and tell him that you are depressed by your obsessive sexual feelings, and ask to be put on an antidepressant, particularly one of the Prozac class, which are notorious for greatly reducing libido. I have known at least three trans women who were taking hormones, T blockers, and antidepressants, and who assumed their lack of libido was a result of the blockers and hormones, and who were greatly surprised when they stopped the antidepressant to discover that they had far more libido than they thought. For many, antidepressants depress libido and the desire to masturbate far more than T blockers.

Besides , many people report feeling their thinking was clearer, shaper, like "lifting a fog" when starting anti depressants. Given how you are approaching this problem it couldn't hurt.

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