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Post office wants me to pick up package

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:19 pm
by muslgeld (imported)
Alright everyone here goes: I ordered a package of Depo Provera from inhouse pharmacy. The post office wants me to come down to the post office to pick up my package; sent registered mail. Has this happened to anyone else? What are the legal ramifications? I really wish I had not ordered this as I don't want a big hassel or worse. Anyone out there with any advice?

Re: Post office wants me to pick up package

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:30 pm
by DeaconBlues (imported)
It really is none of their god-damned business, but I suppose they have some stupid law against ordering pharmaceuticals from outside of the U.S. If you think they are gonna try to make you open it in front of some postal inspector or something, maybe you should just not pick it up. Tell them you have no idea who ordered what or why. Someone must have stolen your credit card and made a fake order. If they open it up and inspect it and find "illegal pharmaceuticals" or somthing, tell them you had nothing to do with it, after all, what the hell do you want with depo provera?

Re: Post office wants me to pick up package

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:11 am
by jemagirl (imported)
muslgeld (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:19 pm Alright everyone here goes: I ordered a package of Depo Provera from inhouse pharmacy. The post office wants me to come down to the post office to pick up my package; sent registered mail. Has this happened to anyone else? What are the legal ramifications? I really wish I had not ordered this as I don't want a big hassel or worse. Anyone out there with any advice?

As for ordering things from over seas and then going down to the Post office to pick up registered mail I don't know what you legal rights are. You might want to contact free legal aid. In many cities there are lawyers that volunteer to advise regular folks on legal issues.

If you want to avoid the post office in the future and you want too have some thing sent to you from overseas you can have it sent to a company that provides the equivalent of a post office box. The only thing you can't have sent is something that requires you to be present when it is delivered, such as a COD order.

Re: Post office wants me to pick up package

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:50 am
by skivvynine (imported)
I used to work for the Post Office. Because it was sent registered mail, which is the only way for a foreign company to send anything of value or sending anything of value to a foreign country, you must sign for the parcel. That company that sent you the item must have a customs declaration stating what is inside. The same applies to you when you send a parcel to any other country. I do not think there is any worries about this. It is standard operating procedure with any post office in any country. Sending the parcel registered mail guarantees that the parcel will arrive. The parcel has to be signed for by everyone that handles it. Other delivery methods do not guarantee delivery. Mail gets stolen all the time, especially in some foreign countries. The letter carrier should have made an attempt to deliver to your door. I hope this helps you.:)

Re: Post office wants me to pick up package

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:07 am
by radar (imported)
I've ordered stuff from Mexico that I had to pick up and sign for, and there were no complications at all, but then I was ordering antibiotics and an estrogen inhibitor, which are not controlled substances. If DP is not a controlled substance, it's most likely nothing to worry about. If the gov't had a problem with your order, they''d have seized it at customs.

Re: Post office wants me to pick up package

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:36 am
by DonFL (imported)
i did it all the time, no big deal, just go sign for it like its an x-mas card from aunt june.. lol.

Re: Post office wants me to pick up package

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:35 am
by kristoff
It is not illegal to order a 90 day supply (at a time) of drugs one needs and has an order for, even if they are not FDA approved in this country (i.e., androcur). Sometimes, customs gives you a bit of shit, but VERY seldom. The postal service isnt giving you any more grief than signing for any other package.

Re: Post office wants me to pick up package

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:48 am
by Uncle Flo (imported)
I have had to sign for every package from overseas. If customs objects to the delivery they will seize it and send you a notice explaining why and outlining your rights in the matter. The only exceptions are schedule 3 and schedule 4 controlled substances such as heroin, other narcotics and, strangely enough, Testosterone. --FLO--

Re: Post office wants me to pick up package

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:10 pm
by mrt (imported)
Uncle Flo (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:48 am I have had to sign for every package from overseas. If customs objects to the delivery they will seize it and send you a notice explaining why and outlining your rights in the matter. The only exceptions are schedule 3 and schedule 4 controlled substances such as heroin, other narcotics and, strangely enough, Testosterone. --FLO--

Estrogen is ok but Testosterone is Verbotten!!! Odd.... I wonder if that says anything about the perception (negative) of male sexuality or if its a pure abuse issue.

I think that the problem is not with people who are using normal levels but the "athletes" who abuse them. Which is a good topic I think. Does anyone think that the era of steroid abusing "athletes" should have any respect for what they did? I think a team injected full of testosterone / HGH etc playing against a team without this is simply cheating and should be banned and any "records" they made be deleted fully from the record books. The sad thing is didn't we figure this out with the "F"ing Nazi supermen and their drugs to hype them up for combat? Its just bad!

The toll on people abusing it is insane. And for what? To take an example did anyone find pro wrestling that much less entertaining before all the starts looked like Mr Universe? I think there was a minor buzz when Nick Bockwinkle commented about abuse and cited the first era of ubber starts like Hulk Hogan. Frankly I think it was more entertaining in the old days with people that looked a bit more like "real" people. And this whole thing about the average size and speed of football players. They will no doubt be next in this awful biz.

Oh, well I guess I should shut up as I finished injecting myself an hour ago but.... I think there is a serious difference between HRT (When I'm not making any) to get to a normal level vrs some so called athlete who injects 6 or 10x the standard dose to give him the "edge"

Re: Post office wants me to pick up package

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:35 pm
by plix (imported)
Inhouse started sending packages registered mail not too long ago. The most common theory is they were getting tired of people falsely claiming their packages never arrived and getting free reships they didn't deserve. If you don't go pick up your package, you will only be losing what you paid for, and given the circumstances it will not be reshipped after it is returned to Inhouse (unless you pay for it again). Registered mail is not the only way international packages can be shipped, but it is the way Inhouse has recently started shipping them.

So-called "controlled deliveries" are pretty uncommon as a whole, if they even exist at all. I do not know if they even exist - I have only heard people on various boards I have visited claim that they do. But if they do exist, they will only apply to schedule 2-5 controlled substances (and of course schedule 1 since that schedule has no federally approved medical use whatsoever), not non-controlled pharmaceuticals. The worst that happens with a non-controlled pharmaceutical is it gets seized by customs. And my understanding is that even that does not happen anymore.

I've always thought the 90-day importation thing is a lot tricker than it looks. My understanding was that it only applies to drugs that are FDA approved, and that you must have a valid prescription for the drug and be able to provide the name and phone number of the doctor prescribing the drug. My understanding was that because of the rules surrounding FDA approval of drugs and re-importation laws, virtually all importations by private citizens are illegal.

However, since customs is no longer seizing overseas medications, none of these laws should be much of an issue anymore. Of course all controlled substances are still illegal to import, even if you have a prescription.

As for steroids that are used for non-medical reasons, athletes are not the only group of people doing this. Everyone from teenagers to normal people just wanting to get bigger are using them too. There is definitely a difference between medical use and use for other reasons, although just because someone has a script for steroids does not mean that person's use is medically legitimate - there have been cases of doctors inappropriately prescribing them, and some of these doctors have been caught and their licenses revoked.