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question re. mental castration effects

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:04 am
by xyzzxzx (imported)
All,

I am seriously interested in castration but concerned about mental effects, more than physical. A few questions to all you eunuchs:

1. I have read spatial reasoning and memory are reduced, to what extent? I do a job that requires a lot of focused reasoning (software development).

2. Mood swings and depression - is this universal, or does it vary? How bad is it?

Lastly, what about positive effects of castration? Is is really true that eunuchs tend to live longer? I read one quote from a doctor that "the eunuch is an improved organism", aside from prostate issues, what does this allude to?

Thanks everyone.

Re: question re. mental castration effects

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:02 pm
by transward (imported)
Regarding your first quedstion, for a number of years, I've been running support groups for transsexuals in Seattle, home of Microsoft, Nintendo and a host of other high tech companies and I can tell you that there is a sizeable community of post op transsexuals, all of whom have been both physically and chemically castrated, working at software design at those companies. And their performance doesn't seem to have dropped off to any significant degree. I think once you have developed the mental skills you are unlikely to lose them with a loss of T. That said always remember your milage may vary.

Transward

Re: question re. mental castration effects

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:21 pm
by Hash (imported)
If you are planning NOT to use any testosterone supplementation, you will experience a lot of different effects. Please see:

http://www.geocities.com/sherrylanina/C ... fects.html

For me, I use just enough testosterone to keep me at a level that makes me functional mentally & emotionally, but not so much physically. I also get occasional erections. But as was said, things vary from eunuch to eunuch. What I like about being castrated, is that I'm in control. Testosterone cannot force it's way with me.

Re: question re. mental castration effects

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:21 pm
by kristoff
Go to the non-fiction forum, and read "Consequences of Castration." All of it. Perhaps also read Phillip1's thread in the bios (they;re both long, and informative.)

Re: question re. mental castration effects

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:36 pm
by mrt (imported)
All,
xyzzxzx (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:04 am I am seriously interested in castration but concerned about mental effects, more than physical. A few questions to all you eunuchs:

1. I have read spatial reasoning and memory are reduced, to what extent? I do a job that requires a lot of focused reasoning (software development).

2. Mood swings and depression - is this universal, or does it vary? How bad is it?

Lastly, what about positive effects of castration? Is is really true that eunuchs tend to live longer? I read one quote from a doctor that "the eunuch is an improved organism", aside from prostate issues, what does this allude to?

Thanks everyone.

It varies with people. Some function fine with low and maybe close to no hormones. Others were like me.

I had damaged Testes and low Testosterone levels. My ability to focus on problems was more and more difficult. Life operating at my level was impossible. I ended up taking "shit work" just to pay bills.

Moods were bad. Anger, anxiety over not being 100%, sexual drive was zero and my marriage suffered greatly.

Your prostate will atrophy. The possibility that you will get Prostate cancer goes way way down. (zero?) In labs and farms animals live longer castrated but most of these are castrated before puberty. One doctor I spoke to said "maybe" but... Why are you interested in it?

Re: question re. mental castration effects

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:34 pm
by devi (imported)
For me, there has been absolutely no difference at all that I can tell. Right now I do have sensitive breast nipples but even that isn't out of the ordinary since I've always gotten that from time to time. And no... I have never ever taken any estrogens at all. And as usual I hate winter again and once more I am resting and reading more this season than in the other three seasons. Plus I think my spatial reasoning is just the same as before.

Re: question re. mental castration effects

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:50 am
by JesusA (imported)
I would suggest that you read an article by Richard Wassersug, a professor of medicine, who is also a prostate cancer eunuch. The article has been posted on the Archive as Angels Sing (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10714).

Re: question re. mental castration effects

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:48 am
by mrt (imported)
I think the Profs describes it quite well. I am very curious about his reaction now and if he is still ok and using Estrogen?

- T

Re: question re. mental castration effects

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:12 pm
by plix (imported)
Hello and welcome :)

It's good you are taking time to research castration before you take any irreversible steps. I am sure you know that surgical castration is fully irreversible, and chemical castration, which should always be tried first, likely carries a degree of irreversibility as well.

Here are my answers to your questions:

1. This seems to be a pretty much individual thing. I myself have noticed a decrease in my once excellent geographic direction abilities, as well as a troubling degree of memory loss. I do think that the longer you exposed are to T, the less severely you may be impacted in this department.

2. This is definitely not universal. I do not seem to be very sensitive to this effect myself, but many others are extremely sensitive, and you could be one of them. Many have developed suicidal-type depressions. It is nothing to take lightly.

3. What the "positive effects" in general are going to be is completely subjective. Some love the effects of castration, others hate them. Many fall somewhere in between. If by positive effects you mean purely physical health benefits, there is no conclusive proof either way. Some say it reduces the risk of heart disease, others say it raises it. The most important thing to remember is that it is unlikely these rules will apply the same to prepubescent eunuchs and postpubescent eunuchs. Most of the beliefs about eunuchs living longer comes from the castrati, who were castrated before puberty. Those castrated after puberty may not be so lucky. I personally believe that the longer you live with T, the more chance you have of negative health effects once it is gone. The quote you read is the opinion of one doctor, and doctors are not infallible.

Keep up the research. Read what others have pointed out to you, and continue to ask questions :)

Re: question re. mental castration effects

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:42 am
by estragen (imported)
Some thoughtful responses from those who would know