residual T-levels after castration

[erikboy (imported)]

Hi!

I've read many castration experiences. Some report that they loose all the interest in sex and it is impossible to get an erection. Other say that their libido is reduced greatly, but they still can get it hard and orgasm.

This could be an indication of different T-levels after castration. Or how much T is produced in adrenal glands or it could be different sensitivity to remaining T-levels.

I wanted to ask you guys who have firsthand experience a question.

How do you compare your current (after castration) libido to prepubertal libido? Is it the same or is it completely different?

The logic is, that after castration you should have prepubertal T-levels and thus your equipment should work as it did before puberty.

For example, I started to masturbate quite early. at age 8 I think. I did it once every week. I wonder if after castration my abilities will return to my prepubertal level or plummet to zero.

[plix (imported)]

It depends on what you mean by libido. If you mean thoughts of sex, there were none. But I do recall thinking that certain people were attractive in elementary school. I did not start masturbating until I was 16, although there was definitely a libido starting at the usual age.

Now my libido does consist of thoughts of sex, but primarily on a mental level. And this is on T, although my libido was similar before I went back on T.

What will happen to your abilities after castration is very much an individual thing. There is a very good chance your abilities could go to zero, and you may end up not liking it at all. But many eunuchs castrated after puberty do seem to be able to maintain a small degree of desire and ability.

[erikboy (imported)]

It depends on what you mean by libido. If you mean thoughts of sex, there were none. But I do recall thinking that certain people were attractive in elementary school. I did not start masturbating until I was 16, although there was definitely a libido starting at the usual age.

What I meant under Libido was sexual thoughts and acting upon these thoughts. Masturbation is not a must to prove existing libido, but masturbation is a clear sign of existing libido. Thinking sexual of somebody/something. I remember I had these thoughts. With puberty all thoughts and desires intensified greatly. So what I expect from castration is that intensity of these thoughts and desires will be decreased approximately to prepubertal levels.

Is there any proof that person who had no libido before puberty will loose all the libido after castration too?

[erikboy (imported)]

There is a good description for libido on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libido

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

You pose an interesting question and I may not be the ideal person to answer it. I'm still pondering this and other similar questions at the five month point since my castration. Also, I am now using small amounts of testostrerone. I was without any HRT at all for about two months. My impression is that libido declined but did not evaporate. Interest level in sexual matters changed a lot from day to day. Ability to perform sexually was nearly absent. At this moment that state has not changed much as the dose of Testosterone is so low. It is difficult for me to relate this to a prepubertal situation. I can remember deliberately masturbating before I moved to the city (about 4 years old) and I had what seems like quite a lot of not so innocent contact with others of about my own age, although that may have simply been experimenting to see what felt good. As an informed guess I think that libido after castration aproaches the level of pre puberty libido. This would imply that an individual's pre puberty libido would be the determining factor for that individual's post castration libido. --FLO--

[twaddler (imported)]

I don't masturbate anywhere near as often as I did before puberty. Once a week, at most, nowadays.

[Testman (imported)]

And some guys produce a significant testosterone level from their adrenal glands, while others produce very little form their adrenal glands. So in a sense, some guys are more castrated than others, after castration.

[ramses (imported)]

Has anyone found that they have more libido/function after switching from chemical castration to the real thing since androcur suppresses adrenal T as well?

[plix (imported)]

I think we are still dealing with a somewhat vague definition of libdo. If libido means exclusively the urge to engage in the specific act of sexual intercourse with another person, then no, I did not have any libido prior to puberty. And if libido requires one to engage in the act of masturbation, then no, I did not have any libido pre-puberty. And apparently I am the only one who never masturbated, or at least doesn't remember masturbating before puberty. I tried at age 13 and couldn't succeed. I didn't try again until 16, when I finally did succeed.

But can "sexual thoughts" and "thinking sexual of someone" have a wider meaning? And is acting upon them really necessary for them to count?

I did not think about engaging in sexual intercourse before puberty, but I definitely found some people's bodies pleasing to look at as early as 1st grade (and maybe sooner). I would not have argued with kissing and other mild intimate activity with these people. In fact, I did act on these urges to kiss a couple of them, and apparently according to my parents the first kiss occured at age 2. I just never thought specifically of engaging in intercourse with any of them, probably partially because I had minimal to no conscious understanding of the act at the time.

So does that qualify as a "libido"? I think it does. But it does depend on how we want to define it.

Now, post-puberty and post-castration, my "mental libido" does consist of thoughts of sex. Who knows what the difference is?

[Danya (imported)]

Plix,

You are definitely not the only one "

who never masturbated, or at least doesn't remember masturbating before puberty. I tried at age 13 and couldn't succeed. I didn't try again until 16, when I finally did succeed.

" I, blushing with some embarrassment, didn't masturbate at all until I was 22 and a grad student! At that age, I became concerned that I couldn't have children because nothing ever seemed to happen with my penis that would seem to be required to produce pregnancy. I spent some time thinking about what must be the requirements to get a response out of my penis and had to experiment a while to get anything to happen. I'll admit that once I got started masturbating, I was at it several times a day for some time. As of yesterday, I've been on Androcur 7 weeks. I've definitely got some mental libido as evidenced by my continuing appreciate of beautiful male bodies of all types and a fascination with them. There's no physical evidence of this attraction, though, if you get my drift