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Reversibilty of chemicals?
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:56 pm
by random (imported)
Hi. I am interested in removing my sex drive using chemicals because my sex drive is causing me much distress right now.
However, this has not always been so. In the past, I felt that my sex drive was a positive force in my life. I suspect this may be so in the future as well.
Therefore, I don't want to do anything irreversible. So it seems that the normal course of depo provera, leading to full chemical castration, might not be right for me.
Is there a less permanent choice I can make? Small doses of X or Y drug, to eliminate my libido? So I can "try before I buy"? Then, if it turns out to be too awesome, I can make it permanent, but if it doesn't work out, I can go back?
thanks.
--Ryan
Re: Reversibilty of chemicals?
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:07 pm
by markdf (imported)
I'm pretty sure that the use of hormones isn't too permanent. You may suffer some shrinkage, but that can be reversed. My concern would be that once you're having fewer erections, you could suffer some penile shrinkage.
Just thinking of it from the opposite side, I took viagra for a while when I was on a medication that made erections difficult -- and since I was in a pretty intense relationship at the time, I was using it every other night or so. After a few months, my penis seemed noticably larger... and my GF seemed to be having more trouble walking in the mornings. It could just be psychological, but I'm pretty objective about these things.
Needless to say though, having or not having erections regularly does have an affect on how well your equipment functions, on its size, and so on.
But you should probably check with a doctor, and ask around on the forums a bit more. Maybe even consult the medical literature if you're feeling up to it (scholarly journals can be a bit daunting for those outside the field, but they contain a LOT of good information for those brave and patient enough to dig for it).
Re: Reversibilty of chemicals?
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:43 pm
by plix (imported)
Ryan,
Hi and welcome
My belief, and I believe the general consensus among most of the members here and medical professionals, is that chemical castration can cause permanent damage to your balls. Basically anything that shuts them down, most commonly chemical castration and exogenous hormones, can cause them to not work as well as they once did. The longer you are on the meds, the more damage you do.
If you are not sure that you don't want to do permanent damage to your balls, avoiding pharmaceutical chemical castration is probably a wise choice.
If you did want to do the pharma route, I would recommend spironolactone. In low to moderate doses, it may be less likely to cause irreversible damage. Keyword being may. Nothing is guaranteed.
Some people claim to get a libido reduction from SSRIs, but this has never happened for me.
I know there are some herbal and other methods out there that might lower libido somewhat, but I don't know which ones are the best.
Keep in mind that even if you do chem castration and it does turn out to be "awesome" at first, it doesn't mean you won't want that sex drive a few years from now.

Re: Reversibilty of chemicals?
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:58 pm
by cogman (imported)
general consensus is that over a very long period of time you may make some permanent changes to your body, but then we all change as we get older.
anyways if you beleive the data sheet for Androcur
http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/datash ... onetab.htm then everything pretty much returns to normal over a period of months. There is no mention of shrinkage, but I spose it follows.
I have only just started out on this journey so i am not really qualified to comment plus my objective is to only lower not eliminate my libido so I intend to have some T floating around my system

Re: Reversibilty of chemicals?
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:14 am
by Testman (imported)
I agree with Plix. I remember when I took a moderate dose of testosterone once, my natural testosterone level NEVER recovered. My balls were never the same size again, no matter how long I took off from taking testosterone, even years later. For the most part, they returned to normal size and production, but never completely.
Re: Reversibilty of chemicals?
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:50 pm
by considering (imported)
You might find it beneficial to consult with a Psychiatrist. Hyper-Libido is a problem they deal with and could be of assistance. It may be that a basic and commonly prescribed mood alterant could reduce your "sex drive" by calming you. But, please, avoid chemicals until you have done a great deal of research.
Re: Reversibilty of chemicals?
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:20 pm
by Tclosetgirl (imported)
I've chemically castrated myself 3 times now fully and probably comign up on a 4th soon.
My libido is still quite capable but takes some time, and I suppose there is a certain loss, but I like it...
It still works though, fully...I've tested twice in one day successfully
Be careful of depression though, I'm thinking of trying DP next time - heard that it doesn't have the depression symptoms like Androcur does...
Try Saw Palmetto for a while, it works nicely on me.
I also read that report that Soy protein powder can reduce it in 56% of all males 17-25% after just two weeks.
Re: Reversibilty of chemicals?
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:48 pm
by cogman (imported)
Just thought I would say that I stopped taking androcur a week ago and everything has pretty much come back to normal after a week or so. I expect this is because I was only taking 25mg per day. Ejaculate volume is still very low though. Morning woodies are reappearing, not super rockons yet. My drive is returning as well as my resentment about lack of sex...
I decided to stop because I did not feel as vital while taking it. Also I may be imagining this but a old muscular injury came back, and now that I have stopped the pain has also stopped. Could not stand the breathlessness either and I reckon I have put on a few Kgs.
DID like the lowering of my sex drive though, but I can't say it killed my libido.
Funny I found that my relationship with my wife mainly improved as I was not frustrated by lack of sex, but my tolerance of her when she did something thoughtless became much much less. Its like my sex drive would ALWAYS bring me back because I would eventually need my oats. But take away the drive ands its like...$%#^ U I don't need this shite.
All things considered I think that the pros and cons pretty much balanced out, so it became a case of whats the point then. Might go there again though just for a holiday from my sex drive...lol
Re: Reversibilty of chemicals?
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:30 pm
by XtheUndead (imported)
plix (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:43 pm
Some people claim to get a libido reduction from SSRIs, but this has never happened for me.
What happened with me was continued woodies, but no orgasm, or only after lengthy yanking-- not fun at all.
Re: Reversibilty of chemicals?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:58 pm
by madscientist1 (imported)
random (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:56 pm
Hi. I am interested in removing my sex drive using chemicals because my sex drive is causing me much distress right now.
However, this has not always been so. In the past, I felt that my sex drive was a positive force in my life. I suspect this may be so in the future as well.
Therefore, I don't want to do anything irreversible. So it seems that the normal course of depo provera, leading to full chemical castration, might not be right for me.
Is there a less permanent choice I can make? Small doses of X or Y drug, to eliminate my libido? So I can "try before I buy"? Then, if it turns out to be too awesome, I can make it permanent, but if it doesn't work out, I can go back?
thanks.
--Ryan
D-P is temp. just stop using it and eventually things will return to normal, if that is what you really want.