I've found several cutters. -- DON"T ASK ME FOR THE DETAILS -- I'm not going to reveal names or search methods.

I was warned early on by some of the senior members of EA about this.

The problem is simple -- all of these folks are sexual sadists and therefor are to be considered dangerous. You might want a simple and cheap castration -- but their agenda is quite another story. They want to hear you scream when they close the handle of their Burdizzo or slice open your scrotum with a dul knife, and watch you puke and grovel at their feet. These folks are sick and dangerous to your health and well being.

If this sounds like fun, you deserve to meet one of these persons.

I'm not in BDSM or pain games or slavery. My advice -- STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THESE PEOPLE!

Making castration for non-TG males easily available from a real urologist would end their sick games. Don't let your fantasy and eagerness get you into trouble. Go find a real doctor.

That's quite a judgemental statement. Your opinion is valid, but there may be some people that desire that sort of thing. Not your idea of a good time, but perhaps it is for someone else.

That said, I also advocate the safest method available to someone, but sometimes the ends justify the means to achieving a goal. I don't really have a problem if a castrator enjoys what he does so long as it is done in a safe and sane manner.

Kangan (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:05 pm If this sounds like fun, you deserve to meet one of these persons.

Of course you are right about the motivation of some of these cutters, but I don't share your feelings of condemnations for people who do foolish things out of desperation.

hmmmmm, interesting..... u both make some good points ; maybe there are some who are on both sides of the coin? I mean, surely it's possible that some people would do this just to help others achieve their aims?

I don't wanna be gross but for arguments sake, say I was gonna be castrated by a cutter? - it really wouldn't matter to me if he got a hard-on while he's cutting my balls off or jerked off afterwards, so long as I didn't have any pain throughout the procedure and the surroundings were clean / hygenic. I've heard of people who've had this done by their friends / partners so does that make them cutters? or sadists?

I know there are sadists out there but I can't believe all cutters are intent on causing people pain? Until they are free enough to come out of hiding we will never know how many there are... :-\

I think there are some "cutters" who are motivated out of compassion. Still, I have been contacted by cutters from time to time and it was kind of spooky, because I didn't know what their motivation was and under what conditions the castration would take. So I passed on the opportunity.

Now I don't consider my self stupid even though I have done desperate things to achieve my goal. So I understand how it feels to want this and not be able to get it done. The difficulty in obtaining an orchiectomy is not just a problem for non Transgendered men, transgirls also have to jump through hoops and raise money. It is really tough. I have wanted this for as long as I can remember and I am still waiting. In a weaker moment I might have gone for the option of using a cutter. So how can I judge any one else for doing something crazy?

There should be a reform of the medical system when it comes to things such as castration. If a person wants such surgury why is it so difficult to get such elective surgery? Why is it so different than other such surgeries? I feel the women who gets 40 plastic surgeries on her face and body is far more in need of help than a person who want to escape the effects of testosterone or wants to feel more secure in thier sexuality, or lack there of. I have heard that a man must seek the opinions of 'professionals' before he can even be consitered for such surgery. Why is the emaciated 40 year old who wants to be twenty forever, who 'improves' what nature has given her, not held to the same? Seems like an unfair double standard to me. Why does it have to be as such whenever it relates to sexual organs?

I can't change it but I can speak it.

the truth is kangan is upset because he asked my wife to do something that she did not want to do.So she told him some woppers to scare him away.It worked and she is having a big laugh.

My wife never was a cutter and never will be ....she is a veterinarian and my wife.

Rambler56 (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:46 pm There should be a reform of the medical system when it comes to things such as castration. If a person wants such surgury why is it so difficult to get such elective surgery? Why is it so different than other such surgeries? I feel the women who gets 40 plastic surgeries on her face and body is far more in need of help than a person who want to escape the effects of testosterone or wants to feel more secure in thier sexuality, or lack there of. I have heard that a man must seek the opinions of 'professionals' before he can even be consitered for such surgery. Why is the emaciated 40 year old who wants to be twenty forever, who 'improves' what nature has given her, not held to the same? Seems like an unfair double standard to me. Why does it have to be as such whenever it relates to sexual organs?

I can't change it but I can speak it.

Jess makes an excellent point here. Recently one of the networks aired a story on a woman who had both breasts removed because of a family history of breast cancer. She was NOT suffering from cancer, nor did she have any sign of the disease. She just wanted to avoid the risk, so a doctor removed the breasts. Likewise, if a woman past childbearing age wants a hysterectomy, she can basically walk into the doc's office and ask for it. But if a guy asks for an orchiectomy, he's assumed to be unbalanced before the issue is even discussed. There is a history of prostate cancer on both sides of my family. Why would an orchiectomy for me be any different that the woman's voluntary mastectomy?

Terry

We've discussed this before, although I don't know if it was before the hack and restore or not, so it could be lost.

Basically, there's a double-standard out there: doctors will perform these surgeries you mention for women at the proverbial "drop of a hat". Why is this?

But just as you say, sure enough, you mention something wrong in the "male goodies" department and you're instantly branded as a "head case." It's as if doctors of either sex simply refuse to believe that other than cancer, NOTHING ever goes wrong 'down there'.

Been there, done that, with 8 different doctors, the 9th who basically lied to me, and #10, well, we haven't even discussed it because it's irrelevant to me now. Nice snug cotton underwear for support and Tylenol or Aleve are far better than spending $$$ I don't have and being nothing but insulted in the process.

How true, how true. Even with the support of my G.P. I have seen no action when I have a complaint. I just hear "you don't meet the criteria for additional treatment". --FLO--