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Bigger Testicles- Smaller Brains

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:16 pm
by ramses (imported)
Wednesday, January 25, 2006

Bigger testicles -- smaller brains

Sexual prowess in bats comes at a price, study finds

By WILLIAM KATES

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- For some male bats, sexual prowess comes with a price -- smaller brains.

A research team led by Syracuse University biologist Scott Pitnick found that in bat species where the females are promiscuous, the males boasting the largest testicles also had the smallest brains. Conversely, where the females were faithful, the males had smaller testes and larger brains.

"It turns out size does matter," said Pitnick, whose findings were published in December in "Proceedings of the Royal Society: Biological Science," an online journal.

The study offers evidence that males -- at least in some species -- make an evolutionary trade-off between intelligence and sexual prowess, said David Hoskens, a biologist at the Centre for Ecology and Conservation at the University of Exeter in England and a leading authority on bats' mating behavior.

"Bats invest an enormous amount in testis, and the investment has to come from somewhere. There are no free lunches," said Hoskens, who did not participate in the study.

The relationship between the breeding system and relative brain size has received little investigation, said Pitnick, who teaches evolution and population biology and researches topics such as sexual selection and sexual conflict.

Bats are the second-largest group of mammals, with about 1,000 known species. Because of their exceptional navigational and flying abilities, bats have been the subject of countless studies, providing Pitnick and his colleagues -- Kate Jones of Columbia University and Gerald Wilkinson of the University of Maryland -- with a bounty of data.

Pitnick's team looked at 334 species of bats and found a convincing contrast in testes size. In species with monogamous females, males had testes starting at 0.11 percent of their body weight and ranging up to 1.4 percent. But in species where the females had a large number of mates, Pitnick found testes ranged from 0.6 percent to 8.5 percent of the males' mass.

"If female bats mate with more than one male, a sperm competition begins," Pitnick said. "The male who ejaculates the greatest number of sperm wins the game, and hence many bats have evolved outrageously big testes."

Large brains, meanwhile, are metabolically costly to develop and maintain. Pitnick's research suggested that in those bat species with promiscuous females, the male's body used more of its energy to enhance the testes and lacked the energy it needed to further develop the brain.

The study found that in more monogamous species, the average male brain size was about 2.6 percent of body weight, while in promiscuous species, the average size dipped to 1.9 percent.

Re: Bigger Testicles- Smaller Brains

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:49 pm
by IbPervert (imported)
Hmmmm...I wonder if this is true of humans! The smart ones have smaller testies and the dumb ones have 😄 :dong:

Re: Bigger Testicles- Smaller Brains

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:13 am
by Uncle Flo (imported)
IbPervert (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:49 pm Hmmmm...I wonder if this is true of humans! The smart ones have smaller testies and the dumb ones have 😄 :dong:

Or, how about those of us without testis? --FLO--

Re: Bigger Testicles- Smaller Brains

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:22 am
by Eunuch2be (imported)
Of course it is true about humans. Line up an asian, a white and a black. do an IQ test and then check the shorts.

Asians are ALLEDGEDLY very smart.

Blacks are ALLEDGEDLY very hung. (according to white gals)

Us white guys are somewhere in between

Re: Bigger Testicles- Smaller Brains

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:26 am
by Kangan (imported)
IbPervert (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:49 pm Hmmmm...I wonder if this is true of humans! The smart ones have smaller testies and the dumb ones have 😄 :dong:

So that's why I have small balls!:D

Re: Bigger Testicles- Smaller Brains

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:29 am
by Kangan (imported)
Eunuch2be (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:22 am Of course it is true about humans. Line up an asian, a white and a black. do an IQ test and then check the shorts.

Asians are ALLEDGEDLY very smart.

Blacks are ALLEDGEDLY very hung. (according to white gals)

Us white guys are somewhere in between

Asians tend to have small genitals. Blacks tend to have huge genitals. I recently read somewhere (newspaper?) that most men in India have smaller than average penises. But perhaps this is only a new way of steroetyping....:D

Re: Bigger Testicles- Smaller Brains

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:43 am
by Kangan (imported)
I was wondering what was wrong with me - I have a big, thick cock and balls. For now.

That means, as soon as Elmo and his balls are cut off, I will become a genius?

Why is it then, that women aren't so smart?

You are already a genius.:D

A woman's vagina can vary dramatically in size. The first girl I ever fucked had one so big that even your giant penis wouldn't have been able to touch the sides or the bottom! Fucking her was like masturbating into a trash can.😄

As a side note: my wife has a narrow vagina which matches my penis size very well. :dong:

Re: Bigger Testicles- Smaller Brains

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:09 pm
by Rambler56 (imported)
I don't feel this is quite true in my case. I am well endowed with a rather large penis and good-sized testicles. But, I consider myself to be of high intelligence and of good moral standing. I am not a player and I hate them so. I am kind to women and children, yet I often find that women seriously doubt my intentions. It is almost as if they do not believe a man can be kind and thoughtful, without expecting sex. I love sex. Although, I have a rather intense obsession with masterbation. 3 or 4 times a day. I have a very strong libido and I must admit that I am thinking about sex most of the time. But, I try very hard to not let my libido infulence my desicions and control my life. Perhaps that is why I seem to have such a hard time keeping my hands off myself. For a while after I orgasm, there is a time when I am at ease and sex is only a slight nag to my senses.

I was always ashamed of my sexual organs. I suppose that comes from the lack of sexual contact with females most of my life and some seemingly cruel comments from women I did become intamate with. But, I am beginning to see it different. I recognize my own sexuality as something special, different than many others. I am slowly freeing myself of my past wrong self-views and trying to just be who I am and acknowledge the fact that others feel the same as I do about their desires and sexual, or otherwise, needs and wants.

I have not had many partners in my life and I think I am very down on myself about that, unconsciously most of the time.

I have some very left-field views of myself and of the world around me.

On the other hand, I do feel that many, many men are governed by thier penis and testosterone producing testicles. Many do bad things in thier search for sexual satisfaction. Though they seem secure, I do not think they are, they seemingly search for ways to prove their manliness, often at the expense of others.

I seem to not need that outlook, as I feel very secure with my body and the ways I see life and the pursuit of my own happiness, which very often includes my view of other's happiness, or sadness, as the case my be.

May your heart be filled with the joys of life, those special little things which some seem to not see or to ignore because they are living down the front of thier pants most of the time.

Jesse:D

Re: Bigger Testicles- Smaller Brains

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:53 pm
by Eunuchist (imported)
If memory serves me right, preliminary EA survey results suggested a higher than average education level (and probably the intelligence level) of volunteer eunuchs, taken as a group. In many ways, it seems that "higher" intelligence people are more into asexuality and castration than the "lower" ones. They also seem to engage in sex later in life as well as less often, and feel less fascinated by it in general.

Historically, pre-pubertal eunuchs were noted as being quite intelligent by their contemporaries. I don't remember the exact quotes and sources right away (the references were made to the Skoptzy and the Byzantine eunuchs), though one of the explanations looked at the brain development, noting that the eunuchs had a tendency to develop particular dimensions of the skull that is otherwise associated with higher intelligence levels. One of my internet friends, who happens to be a middle-aged pre-pubertal eunuch due to a hereditary condition of some sort (and never have taken any hormones), possesses an IQ of about 150 and excels in "hard" sciences such as chemistry, physics and mathematics.

Re: Bigger Testicles- Smaller Brains

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:17 pm
by Francis (imported)
What happens to these bats if their balls are removed? Would their brains then grow up to normal size without the stress of all that worrying? Maybe it was all the worrying aobut those promiscuous female bats that caused their balls to grow and their brains to atrophy??

I know a number of people who that seems to have happened to so maybe it is the same for the bats😄 😄 😄

Francis