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Intellegent Designer?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:48 pm
by Jeanio (imported)
This was taken from here
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/brain20051117/
The scrotum
Regardless of whether you are male or female, there has come a point at which you have looked at the male sexual anatomy and asked yourself the obvious question: What is going on here? Just look at itthe design is ridiculous. The two testicles are hanging in a little sack called the scrotum, so they are out in the open and completely exposed.
If man is created by an Intelligent Designer, then why in the world would he design human males like this? Why arent the testicles packaged neatly inside the body like every other important organ?
If you are a male, you know about the several problems that go with external testicles:
It can be uncomfortable to run because the testicles have a tendency to flap around. This is why male athletes wear jock straps.
Because they are outside and unprotected, the testicles are quite sensitive to pain. Any male who has ever been kicked in the balls or fallen in the wrong way on his testicles knows how excruciatingly painful it can be.
Because there are loose flaps of skin involved, you get problems like chaffing, jock itch, etc. that develop in and around the scrotum.
Anyone who looks at the design of the testicles and the scrotum can see that there are major flaws. Why are the testicles designed this way?
The testicles hang in a sack outside of the body on most mammals for a very simple reason. The ideal temperature for sperm production happens to be about three degrees Celsius lower that normal body temperature. By hanging the testicles in an external sack, the testicles can more easily maintain this lower temperature. Two types of mammals solve the temperature problem with something other than an external sack: cetaceans (dolphins, whales) and seals. They compensate for the temperature problem with elaborate blood circulation schemes to keep the testicles cool.
If an Intelligent Designer created the human body, the obvious question that you have to ask yourself is this: Why didnt he simply design the testicles so that they function at the normal body temperature? Why in the world would an Intelligent Designer make them temperature-sensitive? If the testicles functioned at normal body temperature (instead of three degrees cooler) then the testicles could be inside the body like every other organ.
Why create such a ridiculous design?
What if we hypothesize that there is no Intelligent Designer? In that case, the human body was designed by a natural process. The fact that the sperm-producing organs are temperature-sensitive is an accident of that natural process. The problem was solved by nature by hanging the testicles of most mammals in a little sack outside the rest of the body. In that case, this whacky design makes sense.
Re: Intellegent Designer?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:17 am
by truly committed (imported)
...so its easy to get them chopped off !!!
later for more..
Re: Intellegent Designer?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:54 am
by Hash (imported)
Your assumption about an Intelligent Designer is flawed; though it is not without reason, but it is not reasonable enough. To postulate that the location of the testicles, which hang outside the body, is a validation of evolution and not the work of an Intelligent Designer is illogical. The scrotum itself is a marvel to consider. It expands and contracts to pull up the testicles out of harms way and to maintain the best temperature to keep sperm viable. The "cremaster muscles" also work to accomplish the preservation & protection of the testicles. The testicles are extremely tough. Yes, they are vulnerable to pain & injury, but that's an inbuilt safeguard. Also, the incidence of testicle injury is rare, I would surmise that the majority of testicular injury is a result of rough play, though that's my assumption. It's also true that the testicles themselves are extremely durable and difficult to injure. Even a swift kick to them usually will not have an adverse or long term effect. Pain is also an effective way to preserve and protect the testicles. It is logical to conclude that an Inlligent Designer would create testicles in this way to give man pleasure, enjoyment, and the abilitiy to procreate. If they were so easily harmed and so vulnerable, I doubt that civilization as we know it would exist. Men have not been hindered from accomplishment by the location of their testicles, hanging outside the body. The evidence proves that the location of the testicles have not been a threat to man's survival nor an impediment as you postulate. As for an Intelligent Designer. Complexity is one of the major tenants of Creationism and creation scientists would state that the scortum & testicles, being complex organs that function harmoniously together, are reasonable evidence of an Intelligent Designer. Ask yourself the question, "Can complex creatures, organs, develop by themselves, even if all the conditions are right and enough time elapses?" I realize that the evlountionary theory postulates that given enough time, anything can happen, but I'm sorry, I just can't buy that assumption. Time is relative and things do happen over time, but the complexities of the human body are just to great for me to believe that life began in a primeval swamp. I must believe in an Intelligent Designer.
Re: Intellegent Designer?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:32 am
by Jeanio (imported)
If that designer had any of intellegence, there wouldn'd be so mush violence and hatred in the world. But if you take the evolutionary point of view, you'll see that hatred and violence are just moving evolution ahead. So many scientific discoveries were made for military purposes first, that is to find easier ways of killing human beings with and without those "marvellously designed scrotums". Fuck that designer!
Re: Intellegent Designer?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:59 am
by I Worship Women (imported)
Jeanio, you keep referring to the Intelligent Designer as "he" and it is difficult to understand why an Intelligent Designer who is male would place the male genitals on the outside where they are vulnerable. An Intelligent Designer who is male would place the male genitals on the inside where they are protected. Maybe that's the problem, maybe the Intelligent Designer isn't male, maybe She is female.
It is understandable that an Intelligent Designer who is female would place the male genitals on the outside where they are much easier for women to get hold of and thus much easier for women to use them to control men.
Please excuse me for answering this question in terms of my own personal religious beliefs. But if by Intelligent Designer you are referring to what most people would call God, I view and perceive of God as being female, as being Goddess. So that I suppose explains my answer to your question.
You asked why would an Intelligent Designer place the male genitals on the outside of the body where they are vulnerable and can cause the man all kinds of problems? My answer is, because the Intelligent Designer is female and She placed the male genitals on the outside so it would be easier for women to get hold of them and easier for women to use them to control men.
Re: Intellegent Designer?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:15 am
by Jeanio (imported)
Thanks for your reply, I Worship Women. As for why I call the Designer "he", I do it unconsciously, the reason originating somewhere in my mother tongue, which is the Russian. In Russian every word must be one of the three genders - male, female and neuter. For instance we call a table "he", a bed "she" and a window "it". Designer (which sounds in Russian the same) is a male word, like most other profession words and all the words of english origin ending with "er". Computer is always "he" in Russia. And those words that originated from English ones ending with "tion" are female, "she-words". So castration and evolution are of female gender.
I agree with you that an Intellegent Designer could hardly be male.
In one of my stories I was talking a little bit about intellegence and mammal testicles.
http://www.eunuch.org/Alpha/P/ea_44928pussy_en.htm
And these are just my words from another story, number 15, where I just think about Nature's gender in the same way as you, I Worship Women.
...Later in the evening I stood naked in my room looking at the mirror on the wall, my wet clothes lying on the floor. I touched my balls. The ache hadn't left them yet. I took the hand off to see my genitals better in the mirror. I stared at my penis and scrotum. I wondered how many nerves were in that small skin sack - scores, hundreds, thousands, millions or billions. And how many of them had been hit by those whipping branch. What did Nature mean when she made this sack so vulnerable. What did she... or is that the answer? SHE! She was she, that is a female. Nature couldn't have balls because Nature is she, she must have a womb and a pussy to give birth to everyone and everything. So she did it just for kicks, I mean giving the males balls, hanging outside. That was a real pun - giving balls for kicks...
...I didn't hear the girls laugh, though no doubt they were laughing. One can blame them of extreme cruelty for laughing at the moments when I wanted to die. But it was not their fault at all. Nature meant it. She meant it when she bestowed the males with vulnerable testicles. She meant it that when a guy would be writhing in testicular agony there would be females realizing their advantage of not having those balls and feeling satisfied with Nature's decision. A funny decision. Nature meant it. As well as I meant it when I let my groin land on the beam. I meant that there would be two girls hysterically laughing at my pain and sufferings. Nature does everything on purpose. She meant it when she gave the elephant a trunk to help it in reaching the food. She meant it when she gave the monkey a tail to help in climbing the trees. And she meant it giving the males vulnerable balls. She meant fun and advantage for the females. Why? Because Nature is a female. And if so, she must have a vagina not a pair of balls. And she meant it that there always would be some guy like me, discontented with what she'd given him and always be letting girls to have fun with his balls...
Re: Intellegent Designer?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:23 am
by mrt (imported)
Jeanio (imported) wrote: Tue May 29, 2007 7:32 am
If that designer had any of intellegence, there wouldn'd be so mush violence and hatred in the world. But if you take the evolutionary point of view, you'll see that hatred and violence are just moving evolution ahead. So many scientific discoveries were made for military purposes first, that is to find easier ways of killing human beings with and without those "marvellously designed scrotums". Fuck that designer!
This is a question so often asked. "God why do you let there be so much violence, poverty etc in the world?" The answer that I fear is God answering by asking us "Why is there so much violence poverty etc in the world? You are my people, my physical doers in this world."
Re: Intellegent Designer?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:39 am
by wolverine1 (imported)
very true!!

plus i think they have a quirky charm too - kinda like the really ugly one in 'the goonies' - look pretty strange, but can't help liking 'em!

Re: Intellegent Designer?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:13 pm
by I Worship Women (imported)
As to the question of
a loving God, allow things like violence, hatred, suffering, etc in the world. When I was a child I heard a minister deliver a sermon on that question, and what that minister said has always stayed with me, so I have never had to ask that question of why.
The minister said that because of God's love for us God gave human beings free will, and when God gave human beings free will, God gave up total control. Yes, God is all powerful, God is almighty, God is omnipotent, but God is not all controlling. Because God loves us God wants us to grow and develop, so God gave each of us free will so we could each grow and develop, and when God gave us free will God gave up having total control.
So after that I never again questioned why a loving God allows things like violence and hatred and suffering in the world. It was like I was ok with that explanation and I understood.
Re: Intellegent Designer?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:38 pm
by transward (imported)
I think for me the only answer is the line from the play J. B. by Archibald MacLeish. "If God is good, He is not God; If God is God, He is not good."
The eternal problem of evil.