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So anyways... I got an elastrator... i like cbt and i find that the dull ache it gives turns me on to no end... now i was just wondering whats a reasonably safe time limit for using it? How long can you leave it on without (reasonably) risking permament damage? I've heard anywhere from 15 minutes to over an hour... the longest I've gone for is 5-10 minutes just to be safe but I'm just curious :>
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Well,

Any amount of time can be dangerous,

I'm not going to lecture you on this, as Ive done it in the past myself, 15 minutes was the most I ever did it as the pain got to much for me.

I found that the cutting of the band was the worst pain I've ever felt.

Many people have used banders for 15 min 30 min or more, you risk blood clots and such.

Just be careful.

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Chris1115 (imported) wrote: Sun May 06, 2007 5:01 pm So anyways... I got an elastrator... i like cbt and i find that the dull ache it gives turns me on to no end... now i was just wondering whats a reasonably safe time limit for using it? How long can you leave it on without (reasonably) risking permament damage? I've heard anywhere from 15 minutes to over an hour... the longest I've gone for is 5-10 minutes just to be safe but I'm just curious :>

In surgical procedures the tourniquet is usually left on for one hour and then released for 10 - 15 minutes and them re-applied if the case is a long one. There are no rules and the length of time is up to the surgeon. Usually, age and health factors enter into it. The younger person, the longer it can be left in place.

This site (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... i_n9114243) 40 minutes with knee arthroscopy but This site (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract) claims 4 hours is safe with a double-cuff for hand surgery.

The problem is, that an elastrator is not the same type of device. In fact, it may be tighter than what is needed to simply cut off blood flow.

Playing with instruments such as this OR a Burdizzo is risky business because they are NOT toys and soft tissue injury is not exclusively limited to ischemia (limited blood supply) or infarction (no blood supply)

If you want a device such as this to play with you would need an inflatable device that provides even pressure to stop blood flow and one whose pressure is adjustable to no more than is needed to accomplish that purpose.

Elastrators have no manufacturing quality control that prevents them from being too tight. The elastic bands probably vary in size and strength but they all would have a minimum size and strength to do the job that they are intended for.

Please remember to play safe. ER trips are E-X-P-E-N-S-I-V-E... ;)
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Lots of folks here play with these devices. Back when I could... I did, as well. Do some searching - we have a fantastic search function - and read some of the many posts about your question. You will find many answers, warnings, and reading entertainment. Play safe, but do enjoy. (BTW, some absolutely thrill in the "sting" of the cut band. It is definitely different and intense.)
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