Today I ran across a film documentary that indicates that the Catholic Church has not changed its view on one important aspect of marriage since 1084. This same canon law was the reason that the Italian castrati were forbidden to marry. Cardinal Sin, the Catholic Archbishop of Manila, who died only recently, went even further and ruled that should anyone become sterile after marriage (including vasectomies and tubal ligations) their marriages should automatically be annulled by the church. Procreation was the sole reason for marriage and inability to procreate made one unfit for marriage.

Forbidden Wedding

Length: 01:00

Type of program: Documentary

At age fifteen, a bullet tore through Hedir Antonio de Brito's body, paralyzing him from the waist down. Twenty years later, he met Mara. They were to be wed. He sent out wedding invitations and applied for a marriage certificate from the Roman Catholic Church.

But forty days before the wedding, Hedir got an unexpected letter from the Catholic Church of Patrocinio, Brazil. His marriage application was denied on the grounds that as a paraplegic he could not copulate, a decision based on the Vatican's Canon Law 1084.

Filmmaker Flavia Fontes talked to the couple, their families, the local priests as well as people in their small Brazilian town. Many were afraid to speak their minds in the shadow of the Catholic Church, but they eventually expressed their outrage at a situation that put love and faith on opposite sides. Told entirely through their voices with no narration, Forbidden Wedding unfolds into a gentle love story about human sexuality, the frailties of faith, the rights of the disabled, and the magic of the heart.

Interesting story and a sad one at that as the priests seem to love screwing every one they can.

I'm not a Catholic because I chose to be one of those damn rebellious protesters like Martin Luther who nailed his 95 Thesis on the door of the Wittenburg Church. Yup, I'm a Lutheran...or was. Now I'm probably just an old fashioned Pagan.

I would imagine Jesus isn't Catholic if only because he'd think one nailing to cross was enough. I do want to go with him to the Vatican someday, in St, Peter's Square, when he tells the assembled crowd, "Hello, I'm Jesus." Though I might make a quick exit when the stoning begins

JesusA (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:54 pm Today I ran across a film documentary that indicates that the Catholic Church has not changed its view on one important aspect of marriage since 1084. This same canon law was the reason that the Italian castrati were forbidden to marry. Cardinal Sin, the Catholic Archbishop of Manila, who died only recently, went even further and ruled that should anyone become sterile after marriage (including vasectomies and tubal ligations) their marriages should automatically be annulled by the church. Procreation was the sole reason for marriage and inability to procreate made one unfit for marriage.

Forbidden Wedding

Length: 01:00

Type of program: Documentary

At age fifteen, a bullet tore through Hedir Antonio de Brito's body, paralyzing him from the waist down. Twenty years later, he met Mara. They were to be wed. He sent out wedding invitations and applied for a marriage certificate from the Roman Catholic Church.

But forty days before the wedding, Hedir got an unexpected letter from the Catholic Church of Patrocinio, Brazil. His marriage application was denied on the grounds that as a paraplegic he could not copulate, a decision based on the Vatican's Canon Law 1084.

Filmmaker Flavia Fontes talked to the couple, their families, the local priests as well as people in their small Brazilian town. Many were afraid to speak their minds in the shadow of the Catholic Church, but they eventually expressed their outrage at a situation that put love and faith on opposite sides. Told entirely through their voices with no narration, Forbidden Wedding unfolds into a gentle love story about human sexuality, the frailties of faith, the rights of the disabled, and the magic of the heart.

Thank you for the reference.

Whenever the subject of abstinence and priests comes up, particuarly in light of some of the things which have been in the news in the past few years, there is always someone who says :

"You wouldn't have all these problems with paedophilic priests, If they were allowed to marry and/or have sex."

My answer to this is really very simple :

"Just who would you have a paedophile get married to?"

And, for me, that's the crux of it. Abstinence doesn't cause priests to become paedophilic or otherwise sexually deviant, if they're going to do those kind of things, they will anyway. Statistically, most sexual acts committed by adults against children are committed by straight, married men.

Maccie,

I thought you were the one holding the nails and hammer when Martin Luther nailed that thing to the door?

"Cardinal Sin" - what a name! I've always found that amusing.

Then again, I've always found the Catholic church amusing.

The Catholic Church is not amusing if you are a recovering Catholic. Yes I still carry much guilt. I remember a nun telling us that our loved ones watch down from heaven to see what we are doing. I always hoped, when I was masturbating, they would look away.

Catholic: Been there, done that. And after being raised catholic all I know is that you begin life baptized as a saint, try like hell to not be a sinner and the end judging from all the funerals that I've ever seen no matter how awful anybody was they get a eulogy pronouncing how good they were (but in their own way, of course). And from what I have seen of this life, somebody somewhere really needs to make a long awaited honest report to God that HEY!, there are no saints down here. None! Nobody! --And probably never were in the past either. We just don't know why anybody would bother pronouncing anybody a saint on earth because I can absolutely assure you that there are no saints down here least of anybody that says there are saints. But then I would like to go to an old Latin Mass for old time sake and see what had all of Europe so cativated that they just couldn't miss out on it on a beautiful Sunday morning when... --Oh never mind bikes, hiking boots, and a lot of other things hadn't been invented yet. :-\

I gave up on being a recovering catholic. It is only a breeding ground for resentment fed by guilt. I realized that the more I resented it, or recovered from it, the more I was yet tied to it - in effect I was still a catholic. At my moment of clarity, I decided I was no longer recovering - just a former catholic. Feels so much better leaving all that crap behind. Sides, I got to go start my own nunnery in my own church....

JesusA (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:54 pm Today I ran across a film documentary that indicates that the Catholic Church has not changed its view on one important aspect of marriage since 1084. This same canon law was the reason that the Italian castrati were forbidden to marry. Cardinal Sin, the Catholic Archbishop of Manila, who died only recently, went even further and ruled that should anyone become sterile after marriage (including vasectomies and tubal ligations) their marriages should automatically be annulled by the church. Procreation was the sole reason for marriage and inability to procreate made one unfit for marriage.

Forbidden Wedding

Length: 01:00

Type of program: Documentary

At age fifteen, a bullet tore through Hedir Antonio de Brito's body, paralyzing him from the waist down. Twenty years later, he met Mara. They were to be wed. He sent out wedding invitations and applied for a marriage certificate from the Roman Catholic Church.

But forty days before the wedding, Hedir got an unexpected letter from the Catholic Church of Patrocinio, Brazil. His marriage application was denied on the grounds that as a paraplegic he could not copulate, a decision based on the Vatican's Canon Law 1084.

Filmmaker Flavia Fontes talked to the couple, their families, the local priests as well as people in their small Brazilian town. Many were afraid to speak their minds in the shadow of the Catholic Church, but they eventually expressed their outrage at a situation that put love and faith on opposite sides. Told entirely through their voices with no narration, Forbidden Wedding unfolds into a gentle love story about human sexuality, the frailties of faith, the rights of the disabled, and the magic of the heart.

Well, there they go again!

:shakemitk

Jesus, Did you know that reproduction IS possible for certain paraplegics?

Those Brazilian Catholic Church leaders are full of shit, Canon Law BE DAMNED...

This is an... an... an... An IMMACULATE MISCONCEPTION!

Men normally have two types of erections. The first is a psychogenic erection, which results from sexual thoughts or seeing or hearing something stimulating or arousing. The brain sends these messages through the nerves of the spinal cord that exit at the T10-L2 levels. The messages are then relayed to the penis, resulting in an erection. For men with spinal cord injury, the ability to have a psychogenic erection depends on the level and extent of injury.

SOURCE (http://www.spinalcord.uab.edu/show.asp?durki=22405)

Quote Earl Butz, former secretary of Agriculture...

Re: The pope... "...ya no play-a da game, ya no make-a da rules..."

Male Fertility

In most SCI men, the ability to have an ejaculation and to father a child naturally is diminished. In fact, ten years ago, doctors were telling newly injured SCI men that they would not be able to father their own children. With advances made in procedures to assist men in obtaining an ejaculation as well as advances in assistive reproduction technology, SCI men now have the potential to become biological fathers. Vibratory stimulation and electroejaculation are procedures that have been investigated and are currently available to assist men in obtaining ejaculations.

Obtaining the ejaculation is only part of the fertility problem in SCI men, however, the semen from SCI men most often contains a lower than normal percent of motile sperm. Questions that researchers hope to be able to answer with investigations on the quality of sperm of SCI men are: what happens to semen quality following SCI? and how successful is artificial insemination and other reproductive technology using semen from SCI men?

Technology and research are making it possible for spinal cord injured men to consider options regarding their fertility and is providing a more encouraging answer to the question, "Will I be able to have children?" Additional Information is available in Factsheet #10: Male Reproductive Function after Spinal Cord Injury.

SOURCE (http://www.makoa.org/nscia/fact05.html)

I knew a young man who was paralyzed racing motorcycles when he was 18. He had a complete fracture-dislocation of L-3 over L-4. I SAW his x-rays. I knew him before and after his injury.

He was married in his 20's HE flew ultralights and fathered several children. He died recently in an ultralight crash. He was in his late 50's and he fathered his children AFTER the accident that paralyzed him. He never had any problems getting his wife pregnant.

Good GRIEF!

But you wannt know the REAL SHIT-KICKER of this?

HE WAS A CATHOLIC!

Those Catholic church officials in Brazil are IGNORANT as hell if they are actually doing that shit.

...Thing is, they just probably want to watch 'em DO IT! I wonder how many of them DANCE NAKED during CARNIVAL (http://www.ipanema.com/carnival/) IN DISGUISE... CHECK IT OUT! (http://www.rio-carnival.net/rio_carniva ... _rio_2.jpg) ...or how many choirboys they have molested... ...or how many adolescent girls that they had fucked...

NO SHIT, it happens! (http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?ar ... onal_news/)

THESE ASSHOLES are about as bad as Muslims cutting the clitorises off of young girls, but NOT QUITE...

:shakemitk

More information HERE! (http://images.main.uab.edu/spinalcord/p ... info-3.pdf)

LAST COMMENT...

...they have not changed since the days when they cut the testicles off of little boys before puberty so that they would have angelic voices in their choirs.

the BASTARDS!

God 'ill git 'em for it! Just wait and see!