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My biggest problem....
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:52 am
by Kangan (imported)
It isn't that I lack the resolve to be castrated. My problem is how to find a suitable surgeon without causing an adverse reaction or embarrassment to myself. I have plenty of local Urologists to choose from, but I balk at calling and asking for an orchiectomy.
If he wasn't so far away, I'd just go see Dr. Kimmel. However, I don't like big cities and Philadelphia in the winter isn't the greatest place to be. I know that it will take me about a week to heal and get over the pain and I'd rather be in my own bed at home, and not have the agony of traveling hundreds of miles with stitches in my scrotum.
A cutter could be used, but again I don't want to be in a strange city or a seedy hotel room when it happens.
I have explored various DIY methods, and banding sounds possible, but I lack the nerve to even buy one at Tractor Supply. I've walked in there a zillion times, looked at the banders, and then left without buying one. I am so afraid of the clerk's reaction.... Duh!
Actually, I don't need a bander as I could improvise something similar or just tie them off with a plastic tie strap used for electrical wiring.
Then there is the issue of pain. Banding or surgery results in massive pain. So I'd need help from someone with access to suitable medical supplies.
The bottom line is: If there was a local doctor like Kimmel, I'd make an appointment right now. As it is, I'm totally frustrated.
Re: My biggest problem....
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:28 am
by bryan (imported)
Kangan,
I, too, was put off by the idea of travelling all the way to Philly for surgery. However, that trip to Philly now lives warmly in my memory.
I asked local urologists for castration, but they said they didn't do it for high libido. I'd have to have cancer or some other nasty condition for them to operate on me.
Dr. Kimmel and the Best Western hotel are near some great museums. If you arrive two days early, you'll have a nice time sightseeing. (Extended time on your feet is out of the question AFTER surgery.)
Just a thought,
Terri
Re: My biggest problem....
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:23 am
by Kangan (imported)
bryan (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:28 am
Kangan,
I, too, was put off by the idea of travelling all the way to Philly for surgery. However, that trip to Philly now lives warmly in my memory.
I asked local urologists for castration, but they said they didn't do it for high libido. I'd have to have cancer or some other nasty condition for them to operate on me.
Dr. Kimmel and the Best Western hotel are near some great museums. If you arrive two days early, you'll have a nice time sightseeing. (Extended time on your feet is out of the question AFTER surgery.)
Just a thought,
Terri
I'm beginning to think I need to call Dr. Kimmel and get on with my life. I really don't want to ask a local practitioner about castration unless I was assured that they would not react in a negative way. We live in a very backward and rural area and people talk - if you get my drift....
The only other option available to me at this point is a bander (or something similar) and I have some very real reservations about the results.
Thanks for the input.
Re: My biggest problem....
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:31 am
by gandalf (imported)
Hi, I have been castrated by a urologist. It was due to pain relating to my epididymis that could not be alleviated. Not even with Novacaine. So the only solution was to remove the entire works. I had to have it done in two surgeries. That was the only way the Dr. would do it. Mine was through the inguinal canals and the Dr. did not remove the scrotum. So, I will either have to live with the empty sac or find a dr. who will remove it. There was not a lot of pain for me. I was given high powered pain medicine with each operation but only used about two. I relied on Ibuprophen and was busy the next day. No lifting for a week but I could do things around the house.
Bob
Re: My biggest problem....
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:38 am
by plix (imported)
I went to Kimmel for my surgery, and while I can't say things went perfectly, they did work out fine in the end. I didn't really like the idea of being there in the Summer because I am not used to severe weather - which ended up causing me several hours delay in getting there. So I think no matter when you go there's always going to be something.
Self-surgery is never recommended, but I don't really think the clerk's reaction will be a problem. I don't really think the first thought in his mind will be "I bet this guy's going to castrate himself."
I doubt very much I would have had any luck with a local urologist had I tried. I probably would not risk asking in a backward and rural area, but that is just me. Others would be brave enough not to care.
I do know one person on this board who had success asking a local doctor for it, but he was also much older. If you are older, you might have more luck than a 21 year-old like me. Doctors tend to see less of a need for them as one ages.
Re: My biggest problem....
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:51 am
by Kangan (imported)
plix (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:38 am
I went to Kimmel for my surgery, and while I can't say things went perfectly, they did work out fine in the end. I didn't really like the idea of being there in the Summer because I am not used to severe weather - which ended up causing me several hours delay in getting there. So I think no matter when you go there's always going to be something.
Self-surgery is never recommended, but I don't really think the clerk's reaction will be a problem. I don't really think the first thought in his mind will be "I bet this guy's going to castrate himself."
I doubt very much I would have had any luck with a local urologist had I tried. I probably would not risk asking in a backward and rural area, but that is just me. Others would be brave enough not to care.
I do know one person on this board who had success asking a local doctor for it, but he was also much older. If you are older, you might have more luck than a 21 year-old like me. Doctors tend to see less of a need for them as one ages.
Thanks Plix. Gosh, I thought all "Senior Members" were all old guys like me.
The store clerk was female and there were lots of other customers around and in line at the register. I did note that they had sold out of the extra bands, however. I suspect that I would have no problems buying the bander if I could manage to be nonchalant about it.
I have wondered about modifying a pair of vise grip pliers into a a Burdizzo. I definitely need a partner who could administer the lidocaine and also wield the implement. (sigh)
I guess I need to call my travel agent and arrange for some plane tickets to Philly....
Re: My biggest problem....
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:17 am
by Uncle Flo (imported)
Allow me to assure you that the vice-grips idea does not work. --FLO--
Re: My biggest problem....
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:11 pm
by bryan (imported)
Kangan (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:51 am
I have wondered about modifying a pair of vise grip pliers into a
Burdizzo....
Kangan,
Been there, done that:
http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showpos ... ostcount=3
Even if I had succeeded, it would have only been a vasectomy.
Terri
Re: My biggest problem....
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:54 am
by Kangan (imported)
Frankly, I don't see what difference it makes with what you use to crimp the blood vessels. I'd guess your failure was due to the fact that the jaws weren't wide enough.
I'm getting mixed messages about Burdizzo use - some say it works and others say it doesn't. I am beginning to think surgery is the only real option.
Re: buying a bander. I haven't yet for several reasons - one of them is that I don't want to damage my scrotum. On the other hand, banding sounds like an easy DIY method. (Not that I recommend this approach.)
Re: My biggest problem....
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:08 am
by kristoff
Kangan (imported) wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:54 am
Frankly, I don't see what difference it makes with what you use to crimp the blood vessels. I'd guess your failure was due to the fact that the jaws weren't wide enough.
I'm getting mixed messages about Burdizzo use - some say it works and others say it doesn't. I am beginning to think surgery is the only real option.
Re: buying a bander. I haven't yet for several reasons - one of them is that I don't want to damage my scrotum. On the other hand, banding sounds like an easy DIY method. (Not that I recommend this approach.)
After many years of reading, as well as experience with variouys methods, much discussion with others actively using various methods, one can always make a case that this that or the other thing will work.
Yes, a burdizzo can be used to castrate a human male. Many folks over the years have had a great variety of experience and all swear they are experts on just the proper application of a burdizzo - i.e., fast clamping, slow clamping, single clamp, multiple clamps, twisting, short duration, long duration, ad nauseum. FACT: some folks here have been castrated successfully with a clamp. It is EXTREMELY painful, and MOST of the time a failure - human cords are not like animal cords - theirs crush, ours compress. Use of topicals like lidocaine merely modify the pain, and one had better be prepared for 1 to 2 weeks of massive swelling, healing lacerations, discomfort and pain. I do speak from experience. The best approach to use? None.
A bander, in my eyes, is a fool's paradise. One doing this method - and YES some have used it successfully - is begging with a loud screaming voice to DIE. If you want necrotic tissue hanging off your body, putrifying, go for it. You can of course cut off - and still end up with the same effect. Of course, we can also discuss various things like gangrene, blood poisoning, infections, etc..... They are fun to play with and provide for hours of entertainment, but it would never be my first choice, or even second...