I castrated my partner and myself

[farinelli (imported)]

Salve, ladies and gentleman

i am italian

sorry for my primitive english

my name is L I am 50 yo

I live with a 40 yo transgender named M

we live togheter since 1995

many years ago M started a chemical teraphy with various drugs and hormons in order of obtainig feminilization

he likes being feminine

but he don't want became a woman with surgical castration, surgical implant of sylicon brests and so on, he wants to remain a feminine transgender with his penis

he like having his little penis, and I too like so

now he is using depo provera (1 shot of 150 mg each 8 weaks) and estradiol benzotato (1 shot each 4 weeks)

after 5 years of terapy M have no sex drive

but the chemical castration is not effective 100%,

M have erection if stimulated, he reachs orgams, but with no eiaculation, his orgasm is dry

his breast is very big now, and beautiful,

his skin is smooth,

his body hairs are less and subtle, his head hairs are very increased

nuts and penis are very shrinked

balls seem two beans

penis is 3 1/2" long when erected and 1 1/2" when flacid

the problem between us was the sex drive

5 years ago whe had sex every day, but now M like have sex only once a month

without sex with M, I have many fantasy in having sex with other persons, but is not a good thing, I dont want sex destroy our life togheter, so some monts ago I decided to lower my sex drive castrating myself chemically as M is doing

so some months ago I began with 1 shot of depo provera 150 each 8 weeks, and a shot of depoprevera 50mg each 4 weeks

now my sex drive is the same of M.

I am not able in having sex more than once in a month, I have no nocturnal erection, but I have erection with a long and patient stiulation; I reach orgasm, but my orgasm is dry as M's orgasm, without eiaculation

I like very much the shrinked penis and nuts of M, they are so beautiful, nice and gentle, and I hope my penis and nuts will became very shrinked too; we have only oral sex, so dimension of penis is not important for us,

and for oral sex "small is better"

L.

[Kangan (imported)]

Your English is very readable. Thank you for your lengthy explanation. I found it interesting.

I would also say that oral sex is best kind - I just wish I could convince my wife of that, but she does not like the taste! Perhaps when I am castrated, there will be no emissions and then she will do it for me.

My penis is already small, so I am not sure I want it to shrink. I guess I will find out.

Thank you for sharing your experiences with us.

[Studlover (imported)]

Your English is very readable. Thank you for your lengthy explanation. I found it interesting.

I would also say that oral sex is best kind - I just wish I could convince my wife of that, but she does not like the taste! Perhaps when I am castrated, there will be no emissions and then she will do it for me.

My penis is already small, so I am not sure I want it to shrink. I guess I will find out.

Thank you for sharing your experiences with us.

Your English is fine!

However, I am curious about this statement you made:

chemical castration is not irreversible as surgical castration, but some effects may be permanent

You meant "chemical castration is reversible and not surgical castration" did you not?

Those are rather large doses, but having done some more research today, I read where 3 sex offenders were given DP 150 m twice weekly for ten weeks then cut it down to once per week and then twice monthly. Their ages were 16, 30, 24.

Studlover

[kristoff]

Your English is fine!

However, I am curious about this statement you made:

chemical castration is not irreversible as surgical castration, but some effects may be permanent

You meant "chemical castration is reversible and not surgical castration" did you not?

Those are rather large doses, but having done some more research today, I read where 3 sex offenders were given DP 150 m twice weekly for ten weeks then cut it down to once per week and then twice monthly. Their ages were 16, 30, 24.

Studlover

I would suggest that he meant also to say that long term use of DP or other T blockers can result in permanent atrophy of testicles, and essentially permanent chemically induced castration.

[Kangan (imported)]

I read where 3 sex offenders were given DP 150 m twice weekly for ten weeks then cut it down to once per week and then twice monthly. Their ages were 16, 30, 24.

Studlover

Let's hear more about this - where were they from, and what happened to them after treatment? I'm surprised at the young age (16) of one of them. He must have done something truly egregious.

[Studlover (imported)]

Let's hear more about this - where were they from, and what happened to them after treatment? I'm surprised at the young age (16) of one of them. He must have done something truly egregious.

I did a search on the pyschiatric report and all I received was the same thing I read to begin with.

But here it is. If anyone has the time to find the entire article more power to you.

Barry DJ, Ciccone JR.

PIP: A preliminary report of the use of Depo-Provera (medroxyprogesterone acetate) in the treatment of 3 aggressive sexual offenders is presented. The 3 males, ages 20, 30, and 16, were treated with 300 mg of Depo-Provera every 10 days; after 1 month of treatment their plasma testosterone levels dropped from 461, 810, and 760 to 28, 110, and 207 ngs%, respectively. The 2 married men initially reported loss of energy but this complaint left them within a few weeks. They were able to continue sexual relations with their spouses to a satisfactory degree. The 16-year-old claimed that he had no interest in sex and no longer masturbated. All 3 were quite pleased with the results of the treatment, both with regard to the defusing of their destructive sexual energy and the concomitant mellowing of their temperaments. It is concluded that this new therapeutic opportunity must be promulgated so that families, judges, and others who were previously without hope may extend that hope to the smallggroup of now treatable patients.

PMID: 1230194 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Studlover

[Kangan (imported)]

I did a search on the pyschiatric report and all I received was the same thing I read to begin with.

But here it is. If anyone has the time to find the entire article more power to you.

Barry DJ, Ciccone JR.

PIP: A preliminary report of the use of Depo-Provera (medroxyprogesterone acetate) in the treatment of 3 aggressive sexual offenders is presented. The 3 males, ages 20, 30, and 16, were treated with 300 mg of Depo-Provera every 10 days; after 1 month of treatment their plasma testosterone levels dropped from 461, 810, and 760 to 28, 110, and 207 ngs%, respectively. The 2 married men initially reported loss of energy but this complaint left them within a few weeks. They were able to continue sexual relations with their spouses to a satisfactory degree. The 16-year-old claimed that he had no interest in sex and no longer masturbated. All 3 were quite pleased with the results of the treatment, both with regard to the defusing of their destructive sexual energy and the concomitant mellowing of their temperaments. It is concluded that this new therapeutic opportunity must be promulgated so that families, judges, and others who were previously without hope may extend that hope to the smallggroup of now treatable patients.

PMID: 1230194 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Studlover

Thanks for the full abstract. Note the words "aggressive sexual offenders." Castrating a 16-year old is a pretty severe punishment. I wonder what State this took place in. I also wonder about the duration of their court ordered treatment. I'd rather have surgery than go through life having to get injections at regular intervals.

[Studlover (imported)]

Thanks for the full abstract. Note the words "aggressive sexual offenders." Castrating a 16-year old is a pretty severe punishment. I wonder what State this took place in. I also wonder about the duration of their court ordered treatment. I'd rather have surgery than go through life having to get injections at regular intervals.

I did some searches to find the full document, but I gave up. I am not in medicine, thus, I do not understand those journals and searches therein.

So, as stated, if anyone has the time and/or understanding please post it.

As for a lifetime of injections, I wonder if the Courts would really have allowed that. As for as physically castrating a 16 year old boy, can you just hear the ACLU?

Studlover

[farinelli (imported)]

Your English is fine!

However, I am curious about this statement you made:

chemical castration is not irreversible as surgical castration, but some effects may be permanent

You meant "chemical castration is reversible and not surgical castration" did you not?

Those are rather large doses, but having done some more research today, I read where 3 sex offenders were given DP 150 m twice weekly for ten weeks then cut it down to once per week and then twice monthly. Their ages were 16, 30, 24.

Studlover

yes, I mean chemical castartion may be partially reversible, partially not:

impotence is reversible, sterility may be irreversible, depending how long the treatment with DP ore others drugs;

the testicles may go to atrophy (you may see as they

shrinks after many months with DP), and atrophy of cells witch produce spermatozoos is often irreversible.

But cells of leydig (the cells of testicle wich produce testosterone) don't go to atrophy with hormonal suppressionof their function, these cells are only bloked for the action of DP on ipotalamo and ipofisi, and may turn producing testosterone

so, if we stop theraphy with DP, after some months leydig cells may restart producing testosterone, and sex drive come back, erection and orgasm too

my boyfriend was completely castraded month ago (with one shot of DP per month), he had no erection, but he don't like the condition of being completely castrated;

so we reduced his DP to one shot each 8 weeks, and now he has no interst in sex neither spontaneus erections, bat if stimulated he reachs erection and orgasm (reaching orgasm is not an easy thing for him, even so now we have sex once or twice a month)

about the terapy of 3 sex offender:

I think it is a very strong therapy and may be dangerous for liver!, but surely is very very fast and effective treatement.

And DP150 twice montly is a strong manteinance terapy which surely let them castraded 100%.

For my experience o my boyfriend DP150 once monthly is sufficient for mainteining complet castration, but I know men are different, and respond to dru

gs in a different way: some men may need stronger teraphy

PIP: A preliminary report of the use of Depo-Provera (medroxyprogesterone acetate) in the treatment of 3 aggressive sexual offenders is presented. The 3 males, ages 20, 30, and 16, were treated with 300 mg of Depo-Provera every 10 days; after 1 month of treatment their plasma testosterone levels dropped from 461, 810, and 760 to 28, 110, and 207 ngs%, respectively. The 2 married men initially reported loss of energy but this complaint left them within a few weeks. They were able to continue sexual relations with their spouses to a satisfactory degree. The 16-year-old claimed that he had no interest in sex and no longer masturbated. All 3 were quite pleased with the results of the treatment, both with regard to the defusing of their destructive sexual energy and the concomitant mellowing of their temperaments. It is concluded that this new therapeutic opportunity must be promulgated so that families, judges, and others who were previously without hope may exten

d that hope to the smallggroup of now treatable patients.)

IMHO the result of this preliminary report have no scientific importance: 1 month

of treatment can not be sufficient for concluding t

hat "this new therapeutic opportunity must be promulgated"

[farinelli (imported)]

I would suggest that he meant also to say that long term use of DP or other T blockers can result in permanent atrophy of testicles, and essentially permanent chemically induced castration.

yes, sterility (ipotentia generandi) may be permanent, impotence (impotentia erigendi and impotentia coeundi) may be not