Moment of Truth

[farharbour (imported)]

I have have wonder what thoughts eunuchs had when they see the last cord cut.. the moment of truth so to speak.. when they know they are no longer men, but will be a eunuch for the rest of his life... Do any of the eunuch remember what they were thinking at that moment ? Relief, anxiety, regret, joy, deep satisfaction ?

[philip1 (imported)]

BLARRR I beleive is what I was thinking I don't remember.

[farharbour (imported)]

really??? probably the most important moment in your life and you don't even remember it.. were you in great pain?

[philip1 (imported)]

I was prettymuch out of it besides I think the biggest moment of my life happened the night before when Bubba and I decided that we were inseporable.

[mrt (imported)]

I have have wonder what thoughts eunuchs had when they see the last cord cut.. the moment of truth so to speak.. when they know they are no longer men, but will be a eunuch for the rest of his life... Do any of the eunuch remember what they were thinking at that moment ? Relief, anxiety, regret, joy, deep satisfaction ?

Women without ovaries. Are they no longer women? I don't intend to start an argument but can a guy get his balls removed for say some non fetish (Say medical reason) and still be a man? With my trials and tribulations I think that hormones play a large part in "defining" ourselves. So if I reach that moment of truth and stay on HRT what am I? I think (and hope) I'll still be a man. I do think that people who go through with Orchidectomy and do not use hormones are different. But.... Anyhow, a question I am pondering.

[Robby (imported)]

Women without ovaries. Are they no longer women? I don't intend to start an argument but can a guy get his balls removed for say some non fetish (Say medical reason) and still be a man? With my trials and tribulations I think that hormones play a large part in "defining" ourselves. So if I reach that moment of truth and stay on HRT what am I? I think (and hope) I'll still be a man. I do think that people who go through with Orchidectomy and do not use hormones are different. But.... Anyhow, a question I am pondering.

MRT,

I have to agree with you. My testicles were removed and I am still a man. Some may call me a Eunuch while others call me a man.

Most importantly, I consider myself a man.

Take care,

[Hash (imported)]

Chromosones play a large part in our identity and development. If we lived like men before castration, it's likely that we'll live like men afterward, unless we identify ourselves as transsexual/female.

To answer "Farharbour," when the last cord was cut, I did not experience a "home run" type moment, I didn't yell out, "Alleuia! It's done!" I was calm and at peace. I speculate that this was due to the surgery itself, it was scary and it was painful at times, I had to ask for another shot to numb things even more. So

when Kimmel said, "Here is your testicle," I looked at it in his hand with an ambivalent, who cares attitude. The next day was different. That's when I started to experience a happy, even joyful euphoria. Seeing your testicle in the doctor's hand was surreal, it was strange and weird to me. That's what I remember. Hash

[BudleyBare (imported)]

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I do think that people who go through with Orchidectomy and do not use hormones are different....

Mr. T, when I read your response, and especially the extracted fragment quoted here, I really stopped and reflected for a while -- not good or bad stuff, but recalling that time in my life. I am one who does not (so far) use hormones, and definitely think of myself as a man. Going a bit further, I would say I am a man who is now in control of my life and absent of pain. I will admit that in the initial post-surgery period that I dealt with some emotional stuff about this, but with the passi

ng of time those feelings/concerns have fa

ded.

...Most importantly, I

consider myself a man....

Ditto Robby's words, and those who know of my status have said likewise.

...To answer "Farharbour," when the last cord was cut, I did not experience a "home run" type moment, I didn't yell out, "Alleuia! It's done!" I was calm and at peace. I speculate that this was due to the surgery itself, it was scary and it was painful at times, I had to ask for another shot to numb things even more. So when Kimmel said, "Here is your testicle," I looked at it in his hand with an ambivalent, who cares attitude. The next day was different. That's when I started to experience a happy, even

joyful euphoria. Seeing your testicle in the doctor's hand was surreal, it was strange and weird to me....

Similar circumstances and feelings as Hash. Because other surgical procedures were being performed at the same time, my primary focus was elsewhere. However, like Hash, when the surgery was completed I asked my doctor to show me the one remaining testicle (with cord attached) that had just been removed. I felt contentment, and other feelings which I cannot find words to describe.

[farharbour (imported)]

Thanks gentleman.. I did not mean to imply that eunuchs are not manly or feminine, but physically and physiologically they are not the same as an intact man.. Self perception is a seperate issue.. Thanks for your very interesting answers.. I just hope that my plans to join the " botherhood" work adn I will be able to post my own reply to this question by the end of October..

[bryan (imported)]

While recovering in a chair at Dr. Kimmel's, I raised my fists, wrists facing out, and did a silent "Woo! Woo! Woo!" cheer. I was so relieved to know that testosterone-torture was ending.

Regarding manhood post-castration: I agree that males are still men after castration and sense it in the posts on EA. That was one of the things that let me know I was different. I no longer felt like a man and loved the changes (and wanted more). Castration unveiled the hidden me, someone I lost touch with back in puberty. Testosterone created an identity which didn't stand the test of time, and I'm happy to have the original, sensitive me back.

Terri